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    John 20:29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Char-Gar View Post
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    "Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?” And they said, “Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” Mark 16:13-16
    Looks like those people believed in reincarnation by thinking that Jesus was one of those mentioned.
    Why else would they say that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizzo View Post
    Looks like those people believed in reincarnation by thinking that Jesus was one of those mentioned.
    Why else would they say that.
    Reincarnation was not a part of Jewish theology. But the did believe that Elijah would return. Return and reincarnation is not the same thing at all.
    Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. Your mileage may vary.

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    Jesus Christ IS the Son of GOD, Redeemer of the World.

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    I hope you find out before it’s too late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizzo View Post
    Looks like those people believed in reincarnation by thinking that Jesus was one of those mentioned.
    Why else would they say that.
    Ah, the slippery Satanic attraction of getting around God with delusions of reincarnation strikes again; it ain't happening.

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    Is Jesus the Christ?

    Absolutely. Sent to change the world, tear the veil, Light in the darkness.

    Christ is not His last name, it is His title. From the Koine Christos, Messiah.

    Jesus Christ is our only hope.

    But we have hardened our hearts and would rather watch football.
    We closed the churches for wuflu but kept the liquor stores open.
    So who is running America? Kick God out of school, who runs the school?
    I hope to see you in church.

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    Dt, I hope for your soul you will have a change of heart. God sent his only son to earth to pay for our sins and that’s why He was crucified. I personally don’t believe God would let his word be tainted in anyway. We have free will to believe or not to believe. It’s your choice and that is forever. I don’t want to stand before God and Jesus on judgement day and hear him say depart from for I know you not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Char-Gar View Post
    Reincarnation was not a part of Jewish theology.
    Well, it sure sounds like they had some notion of it by how they answered Jesus.
    Like I (rhetorically asked), why would they say that?

    But the did believe that Elijah would return.
    Yes, in my understanding, it was a prerequisite to the coming of the Messiah.
    Did Elijah return before Jesus came on the scene?
    No?
    Then Jesus would not be the Messiah then would He.

    Was John the Baptist the reincarnated Elijah?
    If so, then that would satisfy the biblical prophesy.
    Jesus stated that Elijah had come and related this to John the Baptist.

    Return and reincarnation is not the same thing at all.
    I did not say it was.
    Elijah would return as Elijah.
    Elijah reincarnating would come as someone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1hole View Post
    Ah, the slippery Satanic attraction of getting around God with delusions of reincarnation strikes again; it ain't happening.
    <sigh>
    Getting around God, eh.
    You do not know what you are talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizzo View Post
    Well, it sure sounds like they had some notion of it by how they answered Jesus.
    Like I (rhetorically asked), why would they say that?


    Yes, in my understanding, it was a prerequisite to the coming of the Messiah.
    Did Elijah return before Jesus came on the scene?
    No?
    Then Jesus would not be the Messiah then would He.

    Was John the Baptist the reincarnated Elijah?
    If so, then that would satisfy the biblical prophesy.
    Jesus stated that Elijah had come and related this to John the Baptist.


    I did not say it was.
    Elijah would return as Elijah.
    Elijah reincarnating would come as someone else.
    If you read the Gospels, you will find that Jesus selected disciples and took them with him as he went about teaching and ministering. The prevailing concept of Messiah/Christ was than of a powerful military leader who would throw out the Romans and reestablish a Jewish kingdom much it was like under King David. This is very far from whom Jesus was as Messiah. He allowed the disciples to discover for themselves who he was as Messiah. The passage I quoted from Mark was the final exam and Peter as spokesman got it right.

    If you are interested in learning, there you have it. If you just want to be an arguing troll, then I am done with you.
    Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. Your mileage may vary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Char-Gar View Post
    If you read the Gospels, you will find that Jesus selected disciples and took them with him as he went about teaching and ministering. The prevailing concept of Messiah/Christ was than of a powerful military leader who would throw out the Romans and reestablish a Jewish kingdom much it was like under King David. This is very far from whom Jesus was as Messiah. He allowed the disciples to discover for themselves who he was as Messiah. The passage I quoted from Mark was the final exam and Peter as spokesman got it right.

    If you are interested in learning, there you have it. If you just want to be an arguing troll, then I am done with you.
    I see, there I have it. Yet you did not answer my question(s).

    Well, I have read the Bible. Currently I am in the middle of my second time.
    I made a reply to your post but you can't or won't answer my questions, so you call me an arguing troll?
    This seems to be a pattern with you when put on the spot to back up what you posted.
    You get all huffy.
    Perhaps you need to discuss your temper issues with your Pastor.

    Yes, I am interested in learning.
    That is why I ask questions.
    What's your excuse for side stepping the questions?
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    An interesting point about Elijah is that since he didn't die, instead being taken up in a firy chariot, he could come back, without reincarnation being needed. Many suppose that the prophets of doom spoken of in revelation could be Elijah and Enoch, since neither of them had died previously. I hold no stance on that....God will use who God will use. The people of Jesus'day were very superstitious, holding beliefs that the Torah, our old testament, did not support.

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    "The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, 'Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!'"

    John 1:29 (E.S.V.)
    "There is not a single instance in history in which civil liberty was lost, and religious liberty preserved entire. If therefore we yield up our temporal property, we at the same time deliver the conscience into bondage." --John Witherspoon, The Dominion of Providence Over the Passions of Men. 1776

    "The words of the Lord are pure words, like silver refined in a furnace on the ground, purified seven times." Psalm 12:6 (E.S.V.)

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    With the way the world is going. I hope Jesus returns soon.
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    IT IS A FINE AND PLEASANT MADNESS !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizzo View Post
    <sigh>
    Getting around God, eh.
    You do not know what you are talking about.
    Okay, you tell me what I'm really talking about. And tell us all exactly what you find so attractive about reincarnation; we're listening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1hole View Post
    Okay, you tell me what I'm really talking about.
    "Getting around God".
    I have no idea what you are talking about.
    You tell me (us),....we're listening.
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    "and crying out with a loud voice,

    'Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!'

    And all the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures, and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshipped God, saying,

    'Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom and thanksgiving and honor and power and might be to our God forever and ever! Amen.'"

    Revelation 7:10-12 (E.S.V.)

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    "There is not a single instance in history in which civil liberty was lost, and religious liberty preserved entire. If therefore we yield up our temporal property, we at the same time deliver the conscience into bondage." --John Witherspoon, The Dominion of Providence Over the Passions of Men. 1776

    "The words of the Lord are pure words, like silver refined in a furnace on the ground, purified seven times." Psalm 12:6 (E.S.V.)

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    Rizzo, I'm confident everyone here knows what I meant ... including you. And I'm not going to be a foil for your foolishness.

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