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Thread: "Is Jesus THE Christ?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtknowles View Post
    Maybe. The evidence is weak, mostly only what is recorded in the New Testament which might be a work of fiction, no Roman or Jewish record of his execution but I don't doubt the Romans executed a bunch of Jews like Jesus. That Jesus, if he was executed by the Jews/Romans, rose from the dead, again no Jewish or Roman record of that event. The only people to record the miraculous resurrection are a few of his Apostles who would benefit from the belief that their leader was such as the true Christ.

    Maybe, a few billion people believe that their salvation depends on believing it. Of course more people don't believe it than do believe it.

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    My simple reply to your post:
    Either accept Christ as your personal Savior and have your name permanently written in the Lamb's Book of Life or don't do it and wait for the end result. You will then have your definitive answer the moment you take your last breath. I will pray that you do accept Christ as your personal Savior because I don't want to see anyone suffer for eternity.

    This is not a response to start another conversation, argument, disagreements nor to garner a response from you. The choice to believe what you want to believe is yours. I guarantee you will find out if all of your beliefs were correct or incorrect when you take your last breath. My Faith tells me that you will be proven incorrect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Combatmedic63 View Post
    .....The choice to believe what you want to believe is yours. I guarantee you will find out if all of your beliefs were correct or incorrect when you take your last breath.
    Amen.

    Spiritual fact - truth - isn't something that can be established by counting ignorant voting. If that were not so then no fact could ever be totally correct, truth itself would be batted around forever on the tossed waves of murky human logic and desires. Satan is a lier, God is truth. Thankfully, truth remains true even when it has to stand alone.

    A lot of people choose to disbelieve God. Many people also choose to believe the world is flat and even more believe socialism would lift all boats from poverty but ... none of what they honestly "believe" about those issues matters because none of what they believe is true.

    Come quickly Lord Jesus!

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    "...Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God."

    1 Corinthians 1:24 (E.S.V.)

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    "There is not a single instance in history in which civil liberty was lost, and religious liberty preserved entire. If therefore we yield up our temporal property, we at the same time deliver the conscience into bondage." --John Witherspoon, The Dominion of Providence Over the Passions of Men. 1776

    "The words of the Lord are pure words, like silver refined in a furnace on the ground, purified seven times." Psalm 12:6 (E.S.V.)

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    "I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture."

    John 10:9 (E.S.V.)

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    "There is not a single instance in history in which civil liberty was lost, and religious liberty preserved entire. If therefore we yield up our temporal property, we at the same time deliver the conscience into bondage." --John Witherspoon, The Dominion of Providence Over the Passions of Men. 1776

    "The words of the Lord are pure words, like silver refined in a furnace on the ground, purified seven times." Psalm 12:6 (E.S.V.)

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    "Now the point in what we are saying is this: we have such a high priest, one who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven, a minister in the holy places, in the true tent that the Lord set up, not man."

    Hebrews 8:1-2 (E.S.V.)

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    "There is not a single instance in history in which civil liberty was lost, and religious liberty preserved entire. If therefore we yield up our temporal property, we at the same time deliver the conscience into bondage." --John Witherspoon, The Dominion of Providence Over the Passions of Men. 1776

    "The words of the Lord are pure words, like silver refined in a furnace on the ground, purified seven times." Psalm 12:6 (E.S.V.)

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    As regards the original post, the evidence in hand demonstrates that the being we know as Jesus is the creator of our physical reality, setting the stage for His victory. His story is recorded in the heavens when viewed from this planet. The story of His victory is literally sculpted into the face of our planet. Temporal and spatial relationships of prophecy have been keyed to Jerusalem to provide testimony of Him. He intervenes in direct management of His creation. He is the living word and even when man is without the edited letter to us that we call the bible, the truth is manifest.
    So, yes, He is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1hole View Post
    There's a thousand times more evidence of the Jewish Jesus than there is of the Greek Homer but "intellectuals think" (?) Homer was real but Jesus is not.

    Some intellectuals are quite smart and know Jesus was and is but most are mushroom dumm people who preach that He was not. They "prove" it by citing how many other dummies like themselves agree!

    Spiritually blind people only prove to each other that there are none so blind as those who refuse to see!
    Looking for the answer? Psalm 53...... foolish people always know.

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    My father (a heretic and a blasphemer) taught me you can't help someone who doesn't want help! And when I grew I discovered that you can only change yourself!

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    Johnny, yeah, though I wouldn't attempt to sway him out of respect for him because he was my father, mine once snarled and told me I was delusional for being a Christian. There's little you can do with some but pray for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtknowles View Post
    Maybe. The evidence (of Jesus) is weak, mostly only what is recorded in the New Testament which might be a work of fiction,...
    This is old but I just stumbled on it and must speak.

    What? You tell us "the evidence of Jesus is weak" and he just "might be a work of fiction"?? Goodness, what dank intellectual hole do you live in? !

    No individual has impacted the whole of human history AND individual lives for good as much as Jesus, the man/son of God, but you don't consider his huge earthly impact to be sufficient "evidence" that he even lived?

    Giving you all due respect for that idea sir; Gag.

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    Yes he is!!! And if you think all roads lead to Christ take your Toyota to a Ferrari dealership and insist that they do warrantee work on it. You do not get to decide which "roads" lead to Christ, he does.
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    Just maybe all roads do lead to Jesus Christ but what is your relationship with Him when you get there.

    Will He say, come in good and faithful servant or depart from Me I never knew you.

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    All roads do not lead to Christ, He said and i will paraphrase "No one gets to the Father except through Me." that in no uncertain terms tells me there is only one road to the Father. But that statement doesn't make yours any less the gospel truth also.

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    I spent most of my working life in electronix along with space engineers. As you would expect, many of them were highly intelligent. I can assure you that many were dedicated Christians and I highly respected them but, sadly, most were atheists.

    The funniest ones were self-proclaimed intellkectuals of course. They accepted the probable fact of some kind of god but most thought they had figured out a better god than my God; their home-made god(s) always allowed them to be "good enough" to gain some kind of vain glorious afterlife on their own merit.

    All that was long ago. No doubt many of them are now truly dead and finally know how little God cares what they believe or "think".

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    Jesus Christ is the literal Son of God.
    HE is the only Savior, and was promised by Prophets thousands of years before His birth. He was sent, knowing what his ultimate fate would be. (John: 3:14 KJV) He lived a sinless life, and in Gethsemane and on the cross, took upon himself ALL the sins, infirmities, unhapiness and illnesses of all who had or ever would live on this Earth. (John 3:16-17 KJV)He was unjustly arrested, tried and convicted by an illegal Jewish "court", and finally ordered by a cowardly ruler to be crucified in exchange for a murderous criminal.
    HE was nailed to the cross, and when he knew his sacrifice was accepted, surrendered HIS life, to overcome physical death that came to all mankind through Adam's transgression. (1Cor.15:20-23 KJV) On the third day, HE rose from the dead, guaranteeing a Resurrection for every one who had or would live on Earth. (Matthew 28:1-7 KJV) To see how the conniving priests tried to negate the news of the Resurrection, read (Mat. 28:11-15 KJV). But, some of the results of the Resurrection were documented (Mat. 27: 51-53) KJV) It is marvelous that we have the amount of information we have, because of the centuries between His life and today, and the many translations of the orginal documents!
    Jesus Christ is our Savior. HE lives, and is our advocate with the Father, showing us how we may live with them in the eternities!
    IT IS A FINE AND PLEASANT MADNESS !

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    Amen and AMEN!

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    He says what He does and does what He says.
    Makes it pretty hard to deny He's real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtknowles View Post
    Maybe. The evidence is weak, mostly only what is recorded in the New Testament which might be a work of fiction, no Roman or Jewish record of his execution but I don't doubt the Romans executed a bunch of Jews like Jesus. That Jesus, if he was executed by the Jews/Romans, rose from the dead, again no Jewish or Roman record of that event. The only people to record the miraculous resurrection are a few of his Apostles who would benefit from the belief that their leader was such as the true Christ.

    Maybe, a few billion people believe that their salvation depends on believing it. Of course more people don't believe it than do believe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ioon44 View Post
    Just maybe all roads do lead to Jesus Christ but what is your relationship with Him when you get there.

    Will He say, come in good and faithful servant or depart from Me I never knew you.
    yeah, all roads will lead you to Christ because we will all stand before him at the judgement seat and then He will either say enter good and faithful servant or depart from me you evil doer I never knew you.

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    "For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."

    Isaiah 9:6 (E.S.V.)

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    "The words of the Lord are pure words, like silver refined in a furnace on the ground, purified seven times." Psalm 12:6 (E.S.V.)

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