Lee PrecisionRotoMetals2ADvertise hereRepackbox
Titan ReloadingInline FabricationMidSouth Shooters Supply

View Poll Results: Do you use wads for 44-40 or 45 colt?

Voters
61. You may not vote on this poll
  • Never!!

    44 72.13%
  • Always!!

    9 14.75%
  • Maybe if I was storing for a while

    1 1.64%
  • Only if I am reducing load

    7 11.48%
Multiple Choice Poll.
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 21 to 40 of 40

Thread: Wads for 44-40 or 45 colt?

  1. #21
    Boolit Master smkummer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    So. Indiana
    Posts
    1,649
    In the few blackpowder loads I use in an original Rem. 44-40 1875 revolver, I run them as full power. Same with 45 colt and balloon cases.

  2. #22
    Boolit Bub
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    SW Missouri
    Posts
    50
    Just don't try dealing off the bottom of deck when using the playing card stock, you may not get your desired results.

  3. #23
    I've been running 25gr of 2f Pyrodex or Goex (until they shut down) followed by a veg / paper disk, then Ox yoke wad, pushing a 250gr LRN.

    Using an Uberti Schofield and a Taylors '58 Rem 5in with Howell conversion cylinder. The Uberti leaks like a sieve. The BP would gunk it up very fast. So it eats Pyrodex now. The Remington is tight. Recoil manageable and smacks the snot out of the steel.

    Cleans up fast with Windex and Ballistol.

  4. #24
    Boolit Grand Master


    Larry Gibson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Lake Havasu City, Arizona
    Posts
    19,495
    Quote Originally Posted by djryan13 View Post
    Do you run a wad in your 44-40 or 45 colt black powder loads? Only if you want to reduce load? What if you are storing them a while and are worried about contaminating BP with lube?
    No wad or filler in either cartridge or any other handgun cartridge.
    Larry Gibson

    “Deficient observation is merely a form of ignorance and responsible for the many morbid notions and foolish ideas prevailing.”
    ― Nikola Tesla

  5. #25
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Posts
    468
    If I was worried about keeping the powder near the flash hole, I'd try using clothes dryer lint. Wads and cards are substantial enough that they can act like "secondary projectiles" and ring a barrel.
    For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Ecclesiastes 1:18
    He that troubleth his own house shall inherit the wind: and the fool become servant to the wise of heart. Proverbs 11:29
    ...Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Matthew 25:40


    Carpe SCOTCH!

  6. #26
    Boolit Buddy almar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2021
    Location
    Georgia
    Posts
    391
    I use a 1/8" thick wad over a paper punch under a well greased thick grooved bullet meant for BP. 25gr of 3f is all I need for 10-15 yard backyard target practice in my 45 colt. When I up the charge to 30gr, I only use the paper to prevent contamination.
    “It is not enough that we do our best; sometimes we must do what is required.”
    ― Winston S. Churchill

  7. #27
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    1,232
    never, none at all.

  8. #28
    Boolit Master bedbugbilly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    MI (summer) - AZ (winter)
    Posts
    4,610
    I don't load 44-40 but in my 38s and 45 Colt or Schofield BP cartridges I don't use anything - need had an issue to complain about.

  9. #29
    Boolit Buddy almar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2021
    Location
    Georgia
    Posts
    391
    Quote Originally Posted by Kosh75287 View Post
    If I was worried about keeping the powder near the flash hole, I'd try using clothes dryer lint. Wads and cards are substantial enough that they can act like "secondary projectiles" and ring a barrel.
    From what I read about ring formation, it happens when air compresses. You shouldn't leave any gap between the filler or wad and the base of the bullet. And the filler should be compressed.
    “It is not enough that we do our best; sometimes we must do what is required.”
    ― Winston S. Churchill

  10. #30
    Boolit Master

    Buzzard II's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Northern New Jersey
    Posts
    512
    Shotgun Buffer from Ballistic Products in 44-40 No contamination of powder.
    SMOKELESS IS JUST A PASSING FAD!-STEVE GARBE
    NRA ENDOWMENT MEMBER
    NRA CERTIFIED PISTOL INSTRUCTOR & RANGE SAFETY OFFICER
    FORMER NJ HUNTER EDUCATION INSTRUCTOR
    GOA LIFE MEMBER
    SASS LIFE MEMBER
    NJ2AS MEMBER
    ADAPT, IMPROVISE, OVERCOME!
    "ANY MAN WHO THINKS HE CAN BE HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS BY LETTING THE GOVERNMENT TAKE CARE OF HIM, BETTER TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THE AMERICAN INDIAN!"-HENRY FORD

  11. #31
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    2,421
    Quote Originally Posted by Kosh75287 View Post
    If I was worried about keeping the powder near the flash hole, I'd try using clothes dryer lint. Wads and cards are substantial enough that they can act like "secondary projectiles" and ring a barrel.
    ????? seeing this was in the blackpowder cartridge place some of us foolishly assumed the op was using Blackpowder ........so in that case a card wad over the powder (full case ) would be perfectly fine - no need for gunk fillers to "keep it near the flash hole" ??????

  12. #32
    Moderator Emeritus

    georgerkahn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    South of the (Canada) border
    Posts
    2,042
    Quote Originally Posted by djryan13 View Post
    Do you run a wad in your 44-40 or 45 colt black powder loads? Only if you want to reduce load? What if you are storing them a while and are worried about contaminating BP with lube?
    I do NOT use a wad in .44 handgun loading. But, for my rifle loading in this calibre I use both a paper punched from a business card and a thin extruded lub ribbon -- tools for both, pictured, from Buffalo Arms.Click image for larger version. 

Name:	LUBERIBBON.JPG 
Views:	3 
Size:	9.1 KB 
ID:	294385Click image for larger version. 

Name:	wad punch.jpg 
Views:	3 
Size:	17.4 KB 
ID:	294386
    geo

  13. #33
    Boolit Buddy Castaway's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Dade City, Fl
    Posts
    384
    Depends on the bullet. If loading a Lee 255 RNPP, I find it doesn’t carry enough lube to suit me. I place the wad I use for my cap and ball revolvers, a Gato Feo saturated wool wad between the bullet and a waxed milk carton wad. With the RCBS 270 grainer, it doesn’t hold quite enough lube but more than the Lee bullet and I load it without a cardboard or or wool wad.

  14. #34
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    1,232
    never!. not needed!

  15. #35
    Boolit Master Savvy Jack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Hickory, NC
    Posts
    1,035
    Quote Originally Posted by NMBill View Post
    I use .030" veg. wads in the 44-40. They eliminated my flyers resulting from gas-cutting.

    Billy
    Using a "caseload" of Reloder 7 with a deeper seating 220gr bullet for my 44-40......the full caseload of slower burning powder acts as a gas check and prevents, if any, gas-cutting.

    Any wads or fillers will increase chamber pressures.

  16. #36
    Boolit Buddy DAVIDMAGNUM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Maryland's Eastern Shore
    Posts
    116
    Quote Originally Posted by DaveM View Post
    I've used cornmeal as a filler in .44 Henry-equivalent loads for the .44 WCF, but it's tedious.....
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	44WCF Filler Wad 1A.jpg 
Views:	2 
Size:	36.4 KB 
ID:	294411

    I have been using this "shotgun wad" for a few years. They are labeled as .125" but for me they measure at .140" thick. It is a tight fit in the case and takes up about 9 grains of Swiss 2F space. I just insert it in the case mouth and compress the reduced charge of powder with the paper wad. This way the top off the reduced load is at the same height as the top of a full load. The process adds maybe 3 seconds to each reload. I used to use Cream of Wheat, never again.

    Interestingly, for 36.5gr of Swiss 2f and my cast 220gr bullet I use no card of any type. Accurate out to 200 meters, I don't see the need.

  17. #37
    Boolit Buddy DAVIDMAGNUM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Maryland's Eastern Shore
    Posts
    116
    Quote Originally Posted by Savvy Jack View Post
    Using a "caseload" of Reloder 7 with a deeper seating 220gr bullet for my 44-40.......
    This is Big Medicine for 1/2 scale and full size metallic silhouette animals!! I don't use it on the 40 meter chickens anymore. The target setters were taking up too much time "finding them " after being hit.

  18. #38
    Boolit Master Oyeboten's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Kansas
    Posts
    757
    Quote Originally Posted by smkummer View Post
    In the few blackpowder loads I use in an original Rem. 44-40 1875 revolver, I run them as full power. Same with 45 colt and balloon cases.
    Good for you!

    Same here...


    "Perfect"..!

  19. #39
    Boolit Master Savvy Jack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Hickory, NC
    Posts
    1,035
    Quote Originally Posted by davidmagnum View Post
    this is big medicine for 1/2 scale and full size metallic silhouette animals!! I don't use it on the 40 meter chickens anymore. The target setters were taking up too much time "finding them " after being hit.
    lol!!

  20. #40
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    2,421
    Quote Originally Posted by DAVIDMAGNUM View Post
    This is Big Medicine for 1/2 scale and full size metallic silhouette animals!! I don't use it on the 40 meter chickens anymore. The target setters were taking up too much time "finding them " after being hit.
    thought ya was sposed ta shoot those things with a .22 ?????

Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check