Shiloh or C Sharps

[Sharp Creek]

5.7 MAN,
That's a great looking rifle. I was going to get the same but decided on a heavier barrel this time around. I have a 1 1/2 heavy in a .45-110 that looks just like yours, but mine has a Hartford collar. I just got in my new .50-90 with a #3 barrel. I'll submit a pic when I get the chance. I have both Shiloh and C. Sharps and enjoy each make. I have had great support from both companies and would recommend highly to anyone. Some features I like better on C. Sharps and some on Shiloh's. Again congrats. What load will you be shooting in it?
Dennis

[appleseedgunsmith]

I have a nice design for a 745 - 750 gr bullet for that .50-90 if youre interested in a free cad drawing

[Mike Brooks]

You folks and your big bores.....I just can't take the beating. More power to you!

[5.7 MAN]

I neglected to ask c. Sharps what tbe twist is in the barrel, I suspect it is fast for heavy bullets. Thanks for the offer on the mould design, I am not quite ready to buy moulds yet. Do the barrel sights shoot where they are supposed to?

[Sharp Creek]

The twist is 1:26". I'm shooting 650 gr PP. Barrel sights on mine shot low at 100 yds. Had to file the front down.

[appleseedgunsmith]

mine shot close to point of aim. but I replaced with lee shaver front globe & parts unknown soule rear. lee shaver even made me a knurled takedown screw for the soule since one is not factory available.

[CanoeRoller]

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When someone says a "rifle will not shoot" its a possibility it could be the rifle or their loading and components.



My Dad ran a little sporting goods store, there was one very predictable behavior from folks who bought their first firearms and had an interest shooting accurately: they would trade in their new rifles every few months for a period of two or three years, with the excuse that they could not make the rifle shoot. Eventually, they would all get their hands on a "good shooter." The simple truth was, they had finally learned how to shoot, and they could have saved themselves a lot of cash by sticking to the first rifle they bought.

I never ceased to amaze me that it was always the gun's fault.

[country gent]

Mike, Im in the process of rebuilding a old Remington Rolling block from 45-70 to 38-55 for that reason to reduse recoil. All new wood is going on it. A green Mountain tapered octogon barrel with tulip at the reciever 34" long. 1-12 twist for 330 grn + bullets. Should be a 11 lb rifle when finished making the recoil from the 38-55 very easy





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[appleseedgunsmith]

got one of the last navy arms rolling block receivers. barreled it with a HEAVY 1.250 bbl cut with a custom reamer for.444 marlin black powder only. leatherwood malcolm scope & dz mounts. 435 gr bullet 60gr goex 3f. I get the impression from some of the purist primadonnas on here & other sites that I committed a sacrilege in turning the 444 into a working black powder round, but it works great and has near moa accuracy. wait till they see the 20 ga rifled single shot sluggun im working on now

[mp40man]

Here is a pic for you non-believers,lol

[appleseedgunsmith]

wood by treebone. finished with old english & formbys tung oil

[appleseedgunsmith]

.444 aka .42 x 2 2/10 and yes the barrel is stamped as such!

[Bullshop]

What twist?

[Don McDowell]

I get the impression from some of the purist primadonnas on here & other sites that I committed a sacrilege in turning the 444 into a working black powder round,

Really? Guess I missed that dust up.
Anyway Dave Cook had Shiloh build him a rifle that is chambered for a similar cartridge only he necks down 45-90 cases. About the only place you'ld run into trouble with that round would be at an NRA match, unless you can tie it to something that was really similar produced in blackpowder loadings.

[appleseedgunsmith]

its a 1:18 twist. I know dave cook. he lives 45 minutes from me. shot at the tusco match with him. gun weighs 15 1/2 - 16 lbs. he suggested I call it a .42 wesson short or a .40-70 maynard overbored about .006

[5.7 MAN]

So here is the results of my first range trip, 26 total rounds down range. I got a close 100yd zero by using the ladder portion of the barrel sight. I shot my final 5 rnds at 200 & 300 yds. I shot two rounds at 300 & missed the first shot and hit with the second which is the lone circled shot.

[appleseedgunsmith]

pistol primers. spg lube. lube cookies. veggie wads. compress up to 3/8.looks to be 3.5- 4 inch @ 200......good start!

[Lead pot]

Some of the original .44's and the .40's even actually were a .42.
Don't count the .444 short loaded with blk powder. I use it in my 444 Marlin and it is a very good round.

[appleseedgunsmith]

had steve meacham make me a bushing neck die and re/decapper. he said he was impressed at how thick the rem .444 case really is.

[Idaho Sharpshooter]

444M=.44-63 Maynard...