I see star line has started making 3006. I’m hopeful that will lead to my beloved 280 rem . I would think 35 Whalen 270win and 25 06. Am I overly optimistic?
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I see star line has started making 3006. I’m hopeful that will lead to my beloved 280 rem . I would think 35 Whalen 270win and 25 06. Am I overly optimistic?
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What's wrong with REM, WIN, FED, Hornady and Norma.
Norma makes the Best Brass there is.
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I agree. I have always been happy with Starline brass. One cartridge I shoot, Starline is the only company making brass for it. There is a reason Starline has been expanding their operations and product line. As far as I am concerned the more companies making quality brass the better.
I'm excited about Starline moving into the rifle brass market, especially since they make very high quality brass and sell it at a price that is hard to argue with.
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zymguy: Easy to convert 30-06 brass to the calibers you mention. Gp
Starline is popular because It's cheaper then everyone else's.
They don't Anneal it as the last step the way other manufacturers do. That's what makes it cheaper.
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I would REALLY like to see Starline start making 25-20 Single Shot Basic. Being a bit of an odd duck, it seems like there should be a reasonable market for the Basic configuration to supply the old 25-20 SS rifles as well as the R2 Lovell and other wildcats based on the case. Jamison had some good brass but are no long in business and it appears Captech isn't going to continue making it.
Starline has made a few cases that were sorely needed and may branch out to the 06 based cartridges, but IMHO I would prefer they resurrect some of the basic brass for obsolete cartridges.
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My experience is that Starline provides equal or better quality at a lower price. I have never found their brass to be inferior to other brands, and in many cases it is better.
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I would happily buy Starline over any other brand. Out of the thousands and thousands of pieces of Starline brass I've bought over the years, I can't recall having a single issue with them whatsoever. It seems like it lasts forever too.
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Starline brass has always worked well for me. Gp
I buy both 44 Mag and 45-70 Starline....it's good brass. Even if they don't anneal it as the last step....either do it yourself...or get your 10-15 shots out of it and buy more. Only the really hard stuff to find needs to be "babied" to get 25-30 shots out of a piece of brass.
I'm pretty happy with the stuff I've purchased from them. If they now have 30-06...I'll likely buy some of that too.
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Apparently some people do not know most manufacturers tumble brass before bagging to make it look pretty. Which removes discoloration from the annealing process.
The 25 - 06 will find out how good that brass is LOL.
Federal brass is good for about 3 Full Tilt loadings.
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Starline makes some of the best brass out there. I don't know if they do a final annealing on their rifle brass or not, and really I don't care. The stuff lasts a long time as is, and can be had for a bargain price. If I was that concerned about it, I'd do it myself. Starline 6.5 Creedmoor brass is $0.47 a piece. Norma is $1.40 a piece. Guess which one I'm going to pick.
I have no doubt that Norma brass is extremely good brass, but I and most others are not F class shooters with multi-thousand dollar rifles shooting at 1000+ yards. Overly well made and precise brass is not something I'm going to really benefit from. My little $300-$500 rifles shoot great and put meat on the table, but I'm not pushing them to shoot sub MOA at 1000 yards. I don't even have the skill to do that. Even if the brass somehow lasts twice as long (I'm doubtful it would, but it would be an interesting test to see how they actually compare) you are paying over three times as much for it. To each their own, but but for my needs, Starline fits the bill far better. I cannot justify the extra cost of Norma brass, as I am unsure that I would see any noticable improvement over Starline brass in my rifles.
Here is how Starline brass is made (at least, how their handgun brass is made).
https://youtu.be/74ssMmD_tXE
Come to think of it, a comparison test between Starline and Norma would be very interesting and would probably be a fun experience. We might have to look into doing that at some point.
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I prefer Starline brass. Never had any problems with it. As it is, I have an abundance of other brass for my 30-06 a.i. so I won't be getting any unless it's range pick up..... I believe most of my .45 Colt brass is Starline, and I know all of my .454 brass was.
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Did I ever mention that I hate to trim brass?
if you shoot a lot of starline rifle brass, you can always just buy a automated anneal machine for under $300.
Heck, find a few friends and go in together on a machine.
You can ship it between friends or just ship your brass to the person with the machine and get it done.
I would have one of those machines but I don't do a lot of rifle reloading besides 300 BO, and I just buy my brass from VS Casting Machine on here.
I see a lot of posts that wish that Starline would make this or that brass. I don't know how much existing machinery or tooling can be utilized for some of these "wishes", but it has to figure into the decision to make a new cartridge brass. Machines and hard tooling cost big dollars. Just because we love a particular cartridge doesn't mean that a whole lot of others do also. Twenty people here posting that they would love to see XX cartridge brass produced doesn't necessarily equate to a lasting demand, no matter how much we wish it were so.
Although, I've been surprised at the brass Starline has brought out. Just goes to show that something that I thought was out of favor is not necessarily so. Also, I'm not aware of how some of the new products mesh with existing production.
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