Opinions on the Uberti 1858 revolving carbine?

[Caswell Ranch]

Too bad they weren't made in smaller caliber just for hunting.
Somebody is bound to have considered it.

Very old post but, .451 RB is great for rabbits and tree rat with low load, up the load, fox and bigger are O.K.

[bimus]

Uberti 1858 carbine with a rear peep sight mounted behind the hammer on the stock is my most used hunting rifle for Grouse since 1989 .

[Caswell Ranch]

Uberti 1858 carbine with a rear peep sight mounted behind the hammer on the stock is my most used hunting rifle for Grouse since 1989 .

Add a picture please

[bimus]

I hah to cut the bead off the front sight so it is now just a post .

[bimus]

More pictures loaded with 35 grains of fff or ff black powder or Pyrodex and 454 Hornady or Speer round ball .
FFF velocity 833 FPS
FF velocity 869 FPS

[Caswell Ranch]

Interesting that the velocity of 2F load is higher, have seen this a couple of times with some long barreled guns.

[Soundguy]

I hold mine with a 2 hand grip BEHIND the forcing cone. They do spit some..as expected.

[bimus]

When hunting wear safety glasses mostly dark when in the sun and the yellow ones in dark timber and keep a ear pug in my left ear and put the right side in before I shoot and hand behind cylinder .The nipples going off do pepper the side of my face .

[Caswell Ranch]

Interesting link below, note the 45 colt conversion gun serial number 34 with 18" barrel, trigger guard , loading lever, size of side relief scallops on stock (stock to frame), rear sight type, if Uberti used a gun as a model this has to be it.

The other point of interest for me was how close today's cartridge conversion cylinders are to the originals.
.46 rimfire making the transition from old caliber reference to new way (back then), land size as bore to groove size (.44 land , .46 groove).

https://www.remingtonsociety.org/a-s...olving-rifles/

[Caswell Ranch]

Uberti 1858 carbine with a rear peep sight mounted behind the hammer on the stock is my most used hunting rifle for Grouse since 1989 .

Is the rifling twist rate the same on the 1989 model as the new one, I know of changes in bore/groove depth a friend has one with a .460 groove depth but has the 1 in 18 twist (6 year old gun).

[Caswell Ranch]

Dixie lists twist as 1 in 38" (has to be a typo) , I've seen reference to 1 in 30" and 1 in 32" along with 1 in 18" twist (new/newish) .

[Caswell Ranch]

At some point, Uberti must have made some Navy [.38nom] caliber ones, because I saw the barrels & cylinders listed as parts at some point [long ago. Numrich maybe?] but they probably never came stateside as being "not historically correct" or something. Maybe someone in Yurp can tell us if they have them over there in Navy config?

.36 is historically correct, I don't think Uberti ever made one in .36, maybe to company that made the Colt Root revolving carbine, I would like to see that repro come back.

[nightwolf1974]

I had one I bought used, and lost in a house fire. Took me some time to get used to shooting it. **Never put your hand in front of the cylinder...not very safe, and can be painful!**

[dondiego]

I had one I bought used, and lost in a house fire. Took me some time to get used to shooting it. **Never put your hand in front of the cylinder...not very safe, and can be painful!**

True for most revolvers!

[Pier23]

Hi all,
I have just recently become aware of the 1858 Remington Army .44 cal carbine. It looks like a fun firearm! But the vids I have seen show the ram lever dropping after a few rounds. Is this a chronic issue? Is there a simple fix?

I was looking particularly at the Cimarron offering, which I assume is an Uberti? Are spare cylinders available for this?

I am new-ish to BP, I have a traditional cap-fired muzzleloader, and want to get further into BP. This carbine looks like a good gateway drug.

Many thanks!

Don

[oldsalt444]

I'm enjoying mine. I bought a Howell conversion cylinder in 45 Colt. Accuracy is minute of pie plate at 100. With the BP cylinder I found that conicals like the Lee 200 gr. are more accurate than round balls. Definitely wear good shooting glasses with wide lenses. I always feel stinging on my cheeks when shooting both BP and 45 Colt cartridges. But it is a great deal of fun. Good luck!

[SlippyRider]

Theyre super fun to shoot and very accurate to 100 yards. Given that muzzle velocities on an 8" barrel with 30 grains of 3f and a 138 grain round ball are well over 800 ft/second, which gives you just over 200 ft/lbs energy, the added barrel length of the carbine and a heavier conical is gonna bring energy levels in the neighborhood of 45acp. Pretty cool!

As for gripping the gun behind the cylinder, yes always. I see reference to an experiment showing virtually no dangerous velocities from
a round fired directly from the cylinder, as happens in a chainfire, but its difficult to lend this much credence when an 1858 with a 3" barrel, 30 grains 3f and round ball achieves 700 ft/second. Also, a pepper box can kill. Its firing bullets directly from a cylinder. And the chainfires ive seen on video send lead balls out fast enough to splatter against the frame where they do hit. Thats gonna hurt a fellows hand.