434-250 RF Group buy info

[Willbird]

William E. Danielson III

I hereby offer to Honcho this deal when we get it all hammered out, No big hurry we have other deals going.

The general idea is a 240-250 grain plain based single grease groove round nose flat point to actually cast .434 in WW


Bill

[45 2.1]

First crimp groove for the 44 mag rifles
Second crimp groove for the 444 Marlin
Third crimp groove for anything else

[Dutch4122]

Alright then! I'll step up and commit for the purchase of 2 of these molds.

Anybody else

[45 2.1]

45 2.1 (1)
willbird (2)
sundog (1 or 2)
Tom Myers (1)
Dutch4122 (2)
buck1 (1)
TCLouis (1)
JohnH (1)
Tpr Bret (?)

[JSH]

If you would bump it to a 280 to 300 grains I would bite.
Jeff

[buck1]

I'm in for 1. Let me know how much and where/when to send it! ....Buck

[Willbird]

We're collecting input on this, it will not reach 25 or more I think until the other group buys on pistol boolits are well underway. I myself do not desire a 280-300 grain boolit, those are already avail, altho not in .434 dia.

[TCLouis]

Is there any reason this has to cast to 0.434"?
Isn't 0.431-0.32" big enough for most any 44?

[Willbird]

I dunno about almost any 44, mine happens to be .4325 or so, it is an early ruger redhawk 44 magnum.

[Bret4207]

TCLouis- Better to have it a couple thousandths over to take care of the fat chambers/throats/bores than too skinny (Lyman-itis) and have a mould that makes patterns instead of groups. I may be in for one.

[Willbird]

And I could have said a bit more than I did.

Lee from what I read runs on the small side of what you ask for, and with a Star Lubesizer you want .001" to size down so the lube doesn't leak around the boolit.

so those two things combined helped us arrive at asking Lee for .434 dia

[TCLouis]

OK, I'm in for one I love to watch bullets pile up out of a 6 cavity mold!

[JohnH]

Put me down for one, my NEF has a .432 barrel, this would be ideal for it. Could we keep the weight cloer to 250 and give a little larger meplat, like .30-.35?

[Willbird]

Both of those changes will not hurt what I want to do with it, but the lever gun guys have to kick in their input on the meplet change.



Bill

[BlueSmoke]

Count me in for (1) of the custom moulds. Sounds like great all around shooter.

BlueSmoke

[Willbird]

It looks like so far we have (16) molds spoken for, from talking to John Ross if folks would like more narrower grease grooves spaced for the Star Sizer I am all for that.

Bill

[Dutch4122]

I'm happy with the design as is. Just my $.02

[Ol'Scudder]

Please put me down for one of the molds. The proposed grease-groove changes won't bother me, nor will increasing the meplat to .340 or so.

Or - the original configuration would be fine - - - - -

[buck1]

I'm fine with the changes as well.....Buck

[felix]

Put me down for 1, but keep the version as is. Getting that meplat too wide will cause feeding problems with lever guns designed for the 44 cartridge as is for a pistol. Some Winnie levers might have the long throw action meant for true rifle cartridges, and that action length can tolerate a wider meplat and longer boolit. But, let's don't take chances for those of us having the true pistol length actions, like what the Ruger carbines have, be it lever, bolt, or auto. The meplat cannot be over what the normal jacketed boolits are set at for this cartridge. I know that for a FACT. This is Ruger's way of saying factory cartridges only for these guns. Actually, these short throw actions are good for fun, however limited in ammo design. ... felix