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Thread: New Ruger PC Carbine with some test data

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    Boolit Grand Master popper's Avatar
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    Have you ever looked at an ejected non-fired round for damage? Or setback? Barrel could be bad, twist won't give results like you are seeing.
    Whatever!

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    I did, but not closely or anything. The gun is on its way back to Ruger now.
    Currently casting and loading: .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Special, 9X19, .357 Magnum, .257 Roberts, 6.5 Creedmoor, .30 WCF, .308 WCF.

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    I think you have the wrong caliber if you are looking for great accuracy out to 100 yards. You might find sub sonic 125/147 gr bullets more accurate in the 9MM. The 9MM bullets for the most part are slightly more aero dynamic than a brick when transitioning from sonic to sub sonic. My Ruger will shoot 3" groups with my reloads IF I manage to fire all five rounds at the top of my game. I am no rifleman but that is about as good as I can do and not frequently. For self defense hitting a man sized target out to 100 yds would not be a problem for me. I can hit clay pidgins off a bench at 50 yards. Whether the carbine is capable do more would be an answer for a better shooter than I to answer.

    If you are looking for a true tack driver I would think there are better rifle/caliber combinations out there.

    A friends CZ 9MM Skorpion is more accurate than the Ruger but is a bit more spendier up here than the Ruger.

    Both the CZ and Ruger up here come with 18"+ barrels to conform to our Laws.

    Take Care

    Bob
    PS the CZ Skorpion also comes in what you refer to as a pistol version.
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    Boolit Grand Master FergusonTO35's Avatar
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    Thanks Bob. To clarify, I'm not planning to ever shoot it at 100 yards nor am I expecting this carbine to meet anyone's definition of a tack driver. I would be delighted with good accuracy out to 50 yards, hopefully it will be able to do that when it comes back. It's no special trick to shoot neat groups at 50 using .38 Specials in my Marlin 1894 or any round under the sun in any of my .22 rifles. I don't think this is unreasonable, and the fact that known good cast boolits were hitting all over the place tells me that something is wrong here.
    Currently casting and loading: .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Special, 9X19, .357 Magnum, .257 Roberts, 6.5 Creedmoor, .30 WCF, .308 WCF.

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    Ferg I agree. I see you have a Marlin 1894. One of the last guns on my bucket lists to get. Every time I get close something else nudges it out. Before the bell tolls this kid is getting one. Looking at a M&P Compact with a 4.25" barrel right now then, who knows.

    Good luck I hope Ruger comes through for you.

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    Thanks bro. Hopefully, the Rugerlin 1894's will be available soon.
    Currently casting and loading: .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Special, 9X19, .357 Magnum, .257 Roberts, 6.5 Creedmoor, .30 WCF, .308 WCF.

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    My short barreled rifle made from a Marlin Camp 9 will keep a full 12 round magazine on a 9 inch paper plate at 200 yards. So under a 9 inch group, never measured the group size. (shot with the CAC 9 on it)

    I am very happy with it it is not a bench rest rifle.

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    They deliver usable accuracy. And that's all any gun should do. My PCC.40 is about 2" at 50 yards.

    One thing about Ruger/Marlins,,, First we had Marlins, then we got "Remlins."

    I am voting for "Rugarlins" as the new name for these guns. "Ruglins" is just not enough.

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    Got a message from Ruger, the carbine has been repaired (hopefully) and is headed back to me. I would be totally satisfied with 2" at 50 yards, lets hope that happens.
    Currently casting and loading: .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Special, 9X19, .357 Magnum, .257 Roberts, 6.5 Creedmoor, .30 WCF, .308 WCF.

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    Wonder what the issue was? My PC with a Holosun red dot easily pops soda cans/clays at 50yds offhand and 10" AR500 plate at 100yds rested.

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    Yesterday I mounted a 1x4 scope on my PCC. Once sighted in I was shooting 1" groups at 50 yards with my FMJ RN and Truncated cone lead bullets. I was surprised both loads were POA. All I got was a 1" hole that on the target with both loads. The gun seems to be very accurate with glass sitting on it, in a rest. I might be able to get close to that sitting but standing free hand not likely. LOL It isn't the gun that need new parts....how about a couple of fresh lens, a couple of back vertebra and a few joints here and there. There needs to be a body shop for humans. LOL

    My PCC will shoot with my CZ Scorpian and that is saying a lot.

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    1" groups with FMJ or lead at 50 yards would be awesome. I hope Ruger just put a new barrel on and called it good, I can't imagine what else it could need.
    Currently casting and loading: .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Special, 9X19, .357 Magnum, .257 Roberts, 6.5 Creedmoor, .30 WCF, .308 WCF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FergusonTO35 View Post
    1" groups with FMJ or lead at 50 yards would be awesome. I hope Ruger just put a new barrel on and called it good, I can't imagine what else it could need.
    Having a scope on the gun is really the only way you can test for accuracy in my opinion, that and a decent rest. Most of the shooters I know are not the rock solid free style shooters we think we are. I do hope it works out for you, very happy with mine.

    Take Care

    Bob
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    i check on 'my thread' about the velocity increase over my g26 every once in awhile.

    i'm glad mine has been a 'good one' for me.

    the lee 125gn round flat just pop pop pops.

    the red dot on the carbine gives smaller groups than the iron sights day in day out.

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