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    I've used the Lee 223 boolit, not even working up a load, but going for 2500 or so FPS, we had 2-3" @ 100m, and that was PC'd and no GC. Could have gotten alot better, but for plinking ammo, it was awesome.

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    I'm as cheap as anyone but finally gave up with cast in the AR. Got it to shoot 2-1/2" at 100 yd. which is plenty good for 3-Gun but all the matches are "lost brass". I put too much time prepping that brass to see it on the ground and not be allowed to pick it up. Also, the 3 cents/check and PC'ing were not money savers for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GregLaROCHE View Post
    I’m impressed! You guys have really gotten those small Boolits to work. I’m still trying to get a 140gr to preform well in my 6.5mm Swede. Maybe I need to start reading up on .223 loads to get some new ideas.
    The Swede is one of the harder cartridges to get to work well with cast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by upnorthwis
    "3-Gun...all the matches are 'lost brass' ..."
    Interesting.
    Is this a range, or match-director rule?

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    On the cost of gas checks it might be worth looking into a check maker such as Pat Marlin's so you can make your own checks from aluminum at very low cost, or copper for a bit more. NOE has .22 checks for $21 per thousand so just over 2 cents rather than 3 cents each. If the cheapest non-reloadable ammo will work for your needs no reason to reload beyond insuring supply and reasonable cost. Good reasons for me but I also see the point to buying bulk steel cases for "throw away" supply.
    Scrap.... because all the really pithy and emphatic four letter words were taken and we had to describe this source of casting material somehow so we added an "S" to what non casters and wives call what we collect.

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    Is this a range or match-director rule?
    Match Director rule. When you have to get 100 shooters thru five stages, this is how they save time. If you're lucky, during tear-down you might find some of yours.
    Last edited by upnorthwis; 10-06-2018 at 03:10 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieselhorses View Post
    Not to throw anyone off but "Elvis Ammo" on YouTube shoots 223 all day with nothing more than powder coat-no checks. He's a little long winded but if you can have a lil patience LOL >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiChkhAjmzs&t=61s
    You can speed up elvis, it is comical somewhat but you get the info twice as fast . it is under settings, 2x is about right
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    I shoot the Lee 224 55gr PC. Out of my bolt action with a mouse fart load . All day long. 3 grn. Of tightgroup.

    I actually bought a savage just for this.

    As for my AR 15 I have had my cast boolits. Turn to lead mist leaving the barrel. Was pushing them way to fast.

    Then I discovered extreme bullets 500 for 30 bucks I bought all the store had. So haven't played with cast for my ar in a while now.

    When I run out I'll try again.

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    "You can speed up elvis, it is comical somewhat but you get the info twice as fast . it is under settings, 2x is about right "

    Not sure that you can speed it up fast enough.

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    100 yards
    Lee ALOX wiped on light coat w/ fingers, dried in oven/"warm" 2hrs, shot next day.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jmort View Post
    "You can speed up elvis, it is comical somewhat but you get the info twice as fast . it is under settings, 2x is about right "

    Not sure that you can speed it up fast enough.
    Awe, give him a break

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    Quote Originally Posted by mehavey View Post
    100 yards
    Lee ALOX wiped on light coat w/ fingers, dried in oven/"warm" 2hrs, shot next day.

    Not bad, hows the bore?

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    Mirror -- no leading at all w/ nothing other than a dry patch.
    (and nothing in gas tube/bolt carrier)
    Similar to my experience w/ the SR762 and BeoWoof.

    ALOX combined w/ #2 is a remarkable system.
    Last edited by mehavey; 10-06-2018 at 09:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mehavey View Post
    Mirror -- no leading at all w/ nothing other than a dry patch.
    (and nothing in gas tube/bolt carrier)
    Similar to my experience w/ the SR762 and BeoWoof.

    ALOX combined w/ #2 is a remarkable system.
    I might just try that. Always good to establish many options.

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    I have two loads for my AR15s.
    Mihec 69gr mold, gas-checked and sized at .225" with 24gr IMR4831
    Lee 55gr BATOR Mold. gas-checked and sized at .225" with 20gr IMR4895
    both lubed with White Label Lubes 2500 lube

    Both function my 20" AR15 1-7" and my 16" M4 1-8" carbine uppers. I keep the velocity for both loads at around 2300fps and the groups are good enough to hit shotgun clays at 100 yards on a regular basis.
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    Had a mysterious "thing" happen today. I was out testing some more pc'd 55 grainers (these had gas checks from when I was paranoid). Anyway I was shooting 10 rounds in each magazine, got to the third mag and let my son take a few shots. Up to now everything functioning flawlessly. He got to the 7th round and "click". Was a little difficult ejecting round (waited about 30 seconds if it was in fact a misfire). I ejected case finally but it wasn't fired. Evidently primer fell out and the bullet was still in chamber. I have no doubt that it would have fired ok, but I'm gonna have to take another look at seating depth. The ogive on the Lee 55 gr mold is different than your conventional 55 gr FMJ. Also thinking about a better crimp.
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    It's been awfully quiet in here. Was it something I said?
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    To check if your depth is ok, make a dummy round and scribble the bullet up with a sharpie. It should show if it's touching in there. I crimp my Lee 55 grain quite harshly, but in the groove so it doesn't deform at all. Seems to be what my rifle likes. Or what she'll let me get away with, anyway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sureYnot View Post
    To check if your depth is ok, make a dummy round and scribble the bullet up with a sharpie. It should show if it's touching in there. I crimp my Lee 55 grain quite harshly, but in the groove so it doesn't deform at all. Seems to be what my rifle likes. Or what she'll let me get away with, anyway...

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    I agree with the crimping part. I was seating to 2.16". I just remembered that Elvis Ammo from YT seats his to 2.1 using 23 grains of Win 748. I'm currently using H4895 at 20 grains which seems to be fine like some others in here are using. But yeah I'll do the marker thing. I know there's fancy equipment to do the gaging with but.... Has anyone here loaded with H335 in cast loads? Or is it too fast?
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    I load the 55 gr RCBS clone over 19 gr of H335...


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