They are fine rifles, I bought one a 32-20 about 12 years ago , and a few years later walked into a gunshop where they took in a .218 bee. they never cleaned it or even wiped it off with a rag. pretty grungy and dusty. it had a marlin sling and several boxes of ammo. the clerk said the price was $350.00 and I about broke my arm getting My wallet out.