Great looking guns Green Frog!
Great looking guns Green Frog!
You can miss fast & you can miss a lot, but only hits count.
I have a 32/20, a couple of 32 S&Ws, a 32 H&R, but the leader is the 327 mag. The 327 is a better revolver round than the 32/20 and it will chamber all of the others mentioned. What is not to like about the 327?
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I've had pistols and revolvers from 32 S&W (the short one) and 32 ACP up to the 32-20 and 327, and each had their own purposes and strengths. At the moment I have little to no use for the shortest rounds, but 32 S&W Long in a little carry gun is attractive... maybe even a 32 H&R (Mag wannabe) but the undisputed KING of 32s is the 327 Fed Mag in an appropriately sized platform. There are over a half dozen 32s of various stripes around here now so this statement is based on my empirical testing.
YMMV, but I doubt it!
Froggie
"It aint easy being green!"
My vote goes to 32-20. Reason is I have a “buckeye” and get very good accuracy and max loads out of it. Haven’t developed a good 32 h&r load for it yet with the extra cylendar.
The single-best source of data I have found for 32 H&R Magnum is in the RCBS Cast Bullet Manual, #1 (1986), pp. 133. The data uses the RCBS #32--98-SWC bullet, which has been the best-performing bullet in my 32 SWL and 32 HRM for years, and shows early promise in the 327 Federal up to 1100 FPS.
I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.
Somebody went in and voted on the poll and reopened this old thread.
When my ship comes in (assuming I’m not waiting at the bus station and miss it) I’ll buy a RBH Buckeye Special 32 combo and have the H&R chambers deepened to 327 Mag length. Otherwise I’ll start with a RBH in 30 Carbine and have Hamilton Bowen do custom cylinders in 32-20 and 327 FM and keep on rolling! There simply is nothing better than the 327 in a properly sized platform.
Of course after I buy Smith & Wesson I’ll drop by the tool room and have them build me an L-frame 327 in stainless. Now that would be the ultimate 32 handgun!!!
Froggie
"It aint easy being green!"
I hit the wrong button..
32-20 is what I wanted to push.
Updating my post from a year ago this time...
Still have the:
S&W Model 53 6"
Freedom Arms 97 6.5"
Ruger LCR
Sold the:
Ruger SP-101 3"
S&W 632-2 PRO
Picked up:
S&W 16-2 4" .32 H&R Magnum (in trade for the PRO)
Ruger Single-Six stainless birdshead .32 H&R Magnum
Also picked up a Ruger GP-100 4" stainless but sold it to a friend when I picked up the 16-2....
Now to get out and shoot them a little more...
Bob
I'm late to the 32 game, but I will say that my sp101 3" 327 is an absolute joy to shoot. Cant go wrong with 327 federal magnum.
I have an 1873 pattern single action by Uberti and a 1914 Colt Army Special, both 5 1/2 and .32.20 plus a Marlin 94 in the same caliber. I have other hand guns and other calibers but the Colt is the most used except for personal protection in the "Big City." It is a cartridge that I understand and is demonstrated to work. Anything shot with it won't know the difference between it and any other upper end .32.
ammo is abundant (5 gallon bucket full) thanks to a Dillon 550. Any of the "big" .32s are OK but the .32-20 is my choice and the Colt AS is my choice of the choice.
To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, the trouble with many shooting experts is not that they're ignorant; its just that they know so much that isn't so.
I have 3 of the 4 calibers listed and am looking for the fourth and fifth (.32acp). I guess I just like the .32's!
Without purusing the whole thread, as others have probably already said the true king and for nostalgia reasons, the 32 WCF is king.
With that said, I think Federal has done alot for the caliber with the introduction of the 327. It has made the 32 H&R what it should have been or almost loaded to by the handloader in a tougher case that can withstand hard use. The 32 WCF might be king but the cases are fragile and need a delicate touch in loading, perticularly the resizing.
Also, hats off to Henry for the introduction of the 327 into their line-up to save money going after a 32 lever.
Now, if someone can come up with a feasible 25 cal replacement for the 25-20 that the big two (rem and win) no longer want to load and produce brass for we'll be set.
I really like my NMBH 32wcf/32hr combo. If was looking for another, the 8 shot bh or the gp100 would be choice without an oal restriction that is placed on the S7 cylinder length but for everyday packability, the s7 hands down.
Last edited by Greg S; 07-06-2019 at 08:47 PM.
Now, if someone can come up with a feasible 25 cal replacement for the 25-20 that the big two (rem and win) no longer want to load and produce brass for we'll be set.
i agree on the replacement 25 cal. i would like to see a super magnum 25 acp with a full rim on it
Hear hear! There's a huge gap between the .22 LR/.22 Mag and the .32 cal rounds.
I'd love both a rimmed and non-rimmed round. If I had to choose just one it would be the non-rimmed round. Handguns can be built to handle the non-rimmed stuff.
Imagine something like a Ruger 10/22 on steroids! Shooting a .25 cal 75-85 gr boolit at 1500 fps!
NRA Benefactor.
Burnt Fingers,
Although I have two rifles in 25-20 SS, they were acquired purposely for 200 yd target work... the very reason the cartridge was designed. I know the 25-20 WCF is a shorter round physically, but it is ballistically a virtual twin. I cannot imagine any task I could do with that round I couldn't do as well or better with one of the straight side 32s (except punch a quarter inch hole. )
Maybe if there had ever been a centerfire round (or family of rounds) based on the 25 rimfire, my opinion would be different, but somehow I doubt it. There just isn't any purpose I can envision to do this, and I'm having a tough enough time trying to get the 32 family out there for the common man!
Froggie
"It aint easy being green!"
OK, BF, I reread your post and picked up on the 10-22 part. I'm not sure that platform would support any existing 25 CF round, but it would be kinda fun in a carbine length rifle. I'm still in handgun mode and my previous answer still applies. JMHO, YMMV!
Froggie
PS Maybe a Mini-14 platform to start on?
"It aint easy being green!"
Elmer Keith said the .25 Stevens Long RF was a lot better killer than .22LR. Just saying.......
scotth;
"Now, if someone can come up with a feasible 25 cal replacement for the 25-20 that the big two (rem and win) no longer want to load and produce brass for we'll be set."
Actually, it is a simple matter to buy Starline 32/20 cases and run them through a 25/20 full length die to give you excellent 25/20 brass. Until I lost the vision in my right eye, I had a Marlin Cl 25/20 lever action that was a wonderful field gun. It would regularly shoot possibles on the fifty yard small bore target. It was a perfect edible small game rifle when loaded with the Lyman cast 257420 bullet. 4.0 grs of Unique gave a nice quiet squirrel load that worked perfectly. Using a full case of RL-7, you could drive that cast bullet to nearly 2200 fps. without issue.
I used my rifle in the field and on the range with excellent results for a number of years. It was FAR superior to the .22 rimfire for game.
FWIW
Dale53
a small game Cartridge or a nice quiet squirrel load is what i am talking about i think the .251 bullet with a longer 25 acp case would do way better then the 22lr until then i will stick with my 32's
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