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    GWS, thanks for the reference to your controller. That one and the old ones have the same connections, so all is well.



    OK, how do I pm TylerR a zip file?
    Last edited by M500; 12-05-2022 at 04:26 PM.

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    Never could do that, but you can pin it into a regular post:

    1. Put any files you want him to get in a folder.
    2. Open the folder.....click "share" then highlight the files you want in the zip.
    3. Click the menu item "Zip", while in that folder with the files highlighted.....name it.....it will add the zip file in that same folder.
    4. go to your post, click "Advanced", scroll down to "Attachments" and click on "manage attachments".
    5. Add files
    6. Browse (find the folder and zip file on your computer)....Open.
    7. Highlight the zip file newly displayed on the menu of attachments.....select it by checkmark
    8. Insert Inline.....click "Done"

    Keep in mind, there is a size limit....may take more than one. If you figure out how to do it in a P.M. share.....Tyler figured out how to share his whole life in the special program he uses.....I know NOTHING about that one.
    Last edited by GWS; 12-06-2022 at 01:37 AM.

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    I see now. Thanks. Will need to do this in steps. 3MB max file size.

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    TylerR, Here are some files for you. See accompanying PM. Thanks
    Attached Files Attached Files
    Last edited by M500; 12-05-2022 at 08:22 PM.

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    Sorry for the delayed reply guys. Life has been coming hard and fast these day, with little free time.

    To answer the original question about speed controllers, I do have three feeders with the smaller one listed in the manual and have not had any issues with them at all so far. GWS was the one who first posted a link to them, and it sounds like his experience is not 100%. I have also used the speed controller M500 posted. That was the original one I found when building my first collator. It's possible it is higher quality, but it is a much larger form factor. Not an issue if using one of the larger control boxes. The one GWS is using now also seems like a solid option.

    M500, Thank you for the PM, especially the personal note. I appreciate that very much. It sounds like you did some solid work there. I downloaded the files and will take a look at them as soon as I can.

    calgarysparky, it sounds like a printer calibration issue to me. As M500 said, the parts are designed to fit snugly. If they require excessive sanding to fit then something else is going on.

    I would like to personally thank GWS for all of his contributions to this project and this thread. He goes way out of his way to answer questions with very detailed and knowledgeable responses, way better than I do to be honest. I hope everyone appreciates what a valuable resource he is here.
    Last edited by TylerR; 12-06-2022 at 12:19 AM.

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    A big thank you to both TylerR and GWS. Well done guys.

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    Lee APP Customizable BottleNose Brass Insert openscad file

    Attachment 308001

    May need tweaking, my first attempt at this, not printed or tested yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsp111 View Post
    Attachment 308001

    May need tweaking, my first attempt at this, not printed or tested yet
    I like this. I added "$fn=100;" to smooth it out a little. Can you clarify exactly how these two params should be used?
    ShoulderHeight = 39.62;
    ShoulderWidth = 11.53;

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    Hmmm......so this might be a way to make quick custom case inserts for the APP.....like Ammo Mike created to make custom collator plates? Interesting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerR View Post
    I like this. I added "$fn=100;" to smooth it out a little. Can you clarify exactly how these two params should be used?
    ShoulderHeight = 39.62;
    ShoulderWidth = 11.53;
    Well, It was meant to use the sammi drawing dimensions. ShoulderHeight would be from base to the start of the taper, and shoulderwidth would be the diameter at that point. I used mm as a reference. I based the defaults on the 308 case. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cartridge_308.PNG

    Like I said, it may not be perfect and require tweaks. This is my first attempt at OpenSCAD. I used the original 308 brass insert as a reference. I wanted a insert for 284 winchester and one for 6.5 prc. The 284 will work with the original feed tube size, but the 6.5 prc will need a larger tube.
    Last edited by rsp111; 12-13-2022 at 12:44 PM.

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    Well here she is!!Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsp111 View Post
    Well, It was meant to use the sammi drawing dimensions. ShoulderHeight would be from base to the start of the taper, and shoulderwidth would be the diameter at that point. I used mm as a reference. I based the defaults on the 308 case. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cartridge_308.PNG

    Like I said, it may not be perfect and require tweaks. This is my first attempt at OpenSCAD. I used the original 308 brass insert as a reference. I wanted a insert for 284 winchester and one for 6.5 prc. The 284 will work with the original feed tube size, but the 6.5 prc will need a larger tube.
    I really like the idea of what you got going here. I will run some tests and print a few out. With your permission I will include it in the downloads once we are sure it is working as intended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calgarysparky View Post
    Well here she is!!Click image for larger version. 

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    Looks good! One more 3d printer collator off to the races....good job!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GWS View Post
    Looks good! One more 3d printer collator off to the races....good job!
    Yes! now let's see some video of it in action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerR View Post
    Yes! now let's see some video of it in action.
    just waiting on the optical sensor to arrive and then I'll get the video done up. Thanks to everyone that has made such huge contributions to this project. I hope to add to it in the future!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by calgarysparky View Post
    just waiting on the optical sensor to arrive and then I'll get the video done up. Thanks to everyone that has made such huge contributions to this project. I hope to add to it in the future!!
    excellent! I like videos. I will ask why not prox sensor though? GWS changed the paradigm with that one.

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    Let's try this again, LOL. I am going optical because the proximity sensor is very large. If I could have found sensitive regular switches that didn't cost a fortune I would have gone with that. Old school electrician here, hard switches rarely fail compared to electronic/electrical ones.
    Last edited by calgarysparky; 12-20-2022 at 01:22 PM.

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    Here is a bench mount I designed for 1x1 aluminum tubing. Not sure how to get the file out for everyone though, that I may need help with. Not the most computer literate dude around, LOL. Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerR View Post
    I really like the idea of what you got going here. I will run some tests and print a few out. With your permission I will include it in the downloads once we are sure it is working as intended.
    Yes for sure, that is why I posted it, free to use, just glad I could contribute. I would have tested more but I actually dont have a printer myself, I get a local guy to print things for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calgarysparky View Post
    Here is a bench mount I designed for 1x1 aluminum tubing. Not sure how to get the file out for everyone though, that I may need help with. Not the most computer literate dude around, LOL. Click image for larger version. 

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    I had an idea about using a high computer monitor stand for mounting the collators, thought it would be nice to be able to adjust it as necessary. just need to design a mount that is compatible.

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