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Thread: Making that Bullet Collator

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    Quote Originally Posted by GWS View Post
    Well, we were way off thread topic.....and we weren't getting anywhere with the stupid Vimeo. They make me mad. They give you a hosting place for videos that's supposed to be free then they keep taking away features until we're left with nothing, and try to force you to Upgrade to paying them every month. That's why YouTube got my business back even with their stupid ads....on Vimeo you can't control your own videos anymore. I'm still willing to host that great APP video on my account with full credit going to where it belongs. What I have left on Vimeo I will move back to Youtube....liberal is better than zero control As long as they don't do the same thing and start removing features.
    What about Rumble? Only watched a couple things there, but it seems to be an alternative to YouTube that may be a little more open to firearms/shooting related topics.

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    Odyssey is popular with that as well. Supposed to be decenteralized

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    Ok….what I miss. Hahahaha. Guess I have some catching up to do. What happened to me! Life and health happened. I’m back not 100% but back. Think I left off on the clutch. Ok then, time to go back several pages and catch up. Hope everyone is well. Btw, master caster finally showed up after 12 months or so. Just got it up and running today. She sat for a bit while I got back on my feet.

    Anywho, glad to be back

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    Quote Originally Posted by lablover View Post
    Ok….what I miss. Hahahaha. Guess I have some catching up to do. What happened to me! Life and health happened. I’m back not 100% but back. Think I left off on the clutch. Ok then, time to go back several pages and catch up. Hope everyone is well. Btw, master caster finally showed up after 12 months or so. Just got it up and running today. She sat for a bit while I got back on my feet.

    Anywho, glad to be back

    Joe
    Welcome back man! Hope you and yours are doing well. Let me know if you need anything.
    Last edited by Red River Rick; 10-11-2021 at 12:14 AM. Reason: Language Censor

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerR View Post
    Holy Sh!t. Welcome back man! Hope you and yours are doing well. Let me know if you need anything.
    Hanging in there my friend. Things got tough and seem to be getting tougher but manageable. Look forward to getting back in the swing if things. Haven’t shot in months or even loaded. Hell, can’t remember the last time I’ve printed. New laptop and need to start over so that kind of sucks. It will come back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lablover View Post
    Hanging in there my friend. Things got tough and seem to be getting tougher but manageable. Look forward to getting back in the swing if things. Haven’t shot in months or even loaded. Hell, can’t remember the last time I’ve printed. New laptop and need to start over so that kind of sucks. It will come back.
    I am glad to hear things are on the upswing, and you have weathered whatever storm life threw your way. Just nice to see you back here and posting.

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    Okay, back on topic! ......I got a bunch more .357's deprimed using 2 36" 7/16" tubes loaded twice......I even tested what a wrench in the works would do (a single case dropped in upside-down.) So in the video below, on the second tube the one upside-down case flies across the room along with the previously deprimed case! That's all....I kept on depriming...only a half second hiccup. Best to not drop them in upside-down too often.....better yet, build another electric collator!



    Below: So got a load for the Thumbler's Tumbler



    Below: Tumbled and dried. Today is .357 loading day. (of course using my new printed bullet feed die.)

    Last edited by GWS; 10-16-2021 at 06:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GWS View Post
    Okay, back on topic! ......I got a bunch more .357's deprimed using 2 36" 7/16" tubes loaded twice......I even tested what a wrench in the works would do (a single case dropped in upside-down.) So in the video below, on the second tube the one upside-down case flies across the room along with the previously deprimed case! That's all....I kept on depriming...only a half second hiccup. Best to not drop them in upside-down too often.....better yet, build another electric collator!

    Below: So got a load for the Thumbler's Tumbler

    Below: Tumbled and dried. Today is .357 loading day. (of course using my new printed bullet feed die.)
    Those sure do look pretty.

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    Which collator plate are you using for.357 bullets? Small pistol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskJ View Post
    Which collator plate are you using for.357 bullets? Small pistol?
    I think we decided large pistol worked well.

    ETA, that's brass. For boolits, small pistol should work fine.

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    Thank you, trying to size some .357 boolits this weekend and printing the small plate now. I thought it would work but wanted to double check prior to printing. I will let you know how it goes Thank you!

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    Hi All,

    Well Ive started printing the feeder and have completed nearly all of the parts, and I have to say its looking great! Thankyou to all of those people involved in the design.

    I have read through a lot of the thread, however havent seen many pics of how people have mounted the electronics in the control box, is anyone able to share some pics?

    I have the speed controller board and the board for the LED sensor setup to mount in there and its really tight with not much to screw things too, so would be interested to see what youve done to keep it all neat and tidy.

    Still waiting on a few things like hex drives to turn up, then I'll be able to rig it all up and test it.

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    No pictures, my wiring tends to be a mess anyway, just some things to consider.

    I test assembled the components outside the box.

    I ended up using some small crimp on spade connectors for wires that go into the screwed connections of the speed and photo boards with screwed terminals. I pulled off the plastic and soldered the wires.

    Tinning the wires made them too thick, especially if more than one wire went to the same connector.

    I found stranded conductor silicone insulated wire easier to deal with.

    I soldered leads to the round power switch, before mounting it in the box. I also made all the connections to the speed controller board before mounting it into the box.

    I made my wires long enough to make all the connections before installing the components.

    I used small strip of double sided tape to hold in the relay for the proximity switch version.

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    Well. I finally got my RL 1100 the other day and got around to hooking up everything including the bullet feeder. Testing it this morning I'm having some issues with my 9mm bullets orienting correctly. Mainly when the collator plate spins and the bullet is oriented correctly (nose up) it is flipped on the ramp and orients itself the wrong direction (nose down).

    Currently using a #5 slide plate (I printed a #6 and had the same issue). Any suggestions on what to do or to look for? Bullets are 147gr RNFP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMoose View Post
    Well. I finally got my RL 1100 the other day and got around to hooking up everything including the bullet feeder. Testing it this morning I'm having some issues with my 9mm bullets orienting correctly. Mainly when the collator plate spins and the bullet is oriented correctly (nose up) it is flipped on the ramp and orients itself the wrong direction (nose down).

    Currently using a #5 slide plate (I printed a #6 and had the same issue). Any suggestions on what to do or to look for? Bullets are 147gr RNFP.
    Try a steeper angle on the feeder first. Most issues are caused by too little angle. Go to the #4 plate if you need to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerR View Post
    Try a steeper angle on the feeder first. Most issues are caused by too little angle. Go to the #4 plate if you need to.
    Printing a #4 to try now. I had it at a pretty steep angle and was still getting ones that were flipping the wrong way. Regardless, it is cool to see this actually come to life after sitting around for several months in pieces and only being test wired on my bench.

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    Still having issues, although less so. It seems about 1 in every 12 is going in nose down. Here are some pictures to try to show the angle, etc. I'm not sure how much further I can tilt it before it loses the ability to grab bullets reliably, especially when its low on them.

    Maybe I should try the #5 again?






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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMoose View Post
    Still having issues, although less so. It seems about 1 in every 12 is going in nose down. Here are some pictures to try to show the angle, etc. I'm not sure how much further I can tilt it before it loses the ability to grab bullets reliably, especially when its low on them.
    Best way I can help is if you post a video of the problem.

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    If I had to guess, I'd say the slide has too much ledge that keeps those particular bullets noses from dropping into the flipper....so they can always reliably flip nose up.

    Also, I'm not terribly impressed with the distance to the feed die.....and the amount of spring stretch forcing both ends to angle strongly out of the collator drop and strongly into the feed die. Bet you will get some hangs. I've never seen that press set up, but can't you rotate the bullet feeder forward?....or is the 1100 mounted too close to the other feeder on the left? I'd be surprised if that doesn't bite you down the road.

    As TylerR mentioned.....a video would help, but I can see that's not so easy with the feeder that far back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GWS View Post
    If I had to guess, I'd say the slide has too much ledge that keeps those particular bullets noses from dropping into the flipper....so they can always reliably flip nose up.

    Also, I'm not terribly impressed with the distance to the feed die.....and the amount of spring stretch forcing both ends to angle strongly out of the collator drop and strongly into the feed die. Bet you will get some hangs. I've never seen that press set up, but can't you rotate the bullet feeder forward?....or is the 1100 mounted too close to the other feeder on the left? I'd be surprised if that doesn't bite you down the road.

    As TylerR mentioned.....a video would help, but I can see that's not so easy with the feeder that far back.
    I'll try to grab a video later.

    As for the mounting...yea it's too close on that side. I've played with its location as close to that side as I can get it (even propping it up on the other case feed) but the issue remained (string stretch) I looked at all the other images I could find of where people were mounting their bullet feeder on the 1100 and even mounting it there, that string is still stretched pretty far like that.

    For example:



    Holding the feeder in my hand and flipping it 180 degrees alleviates that stretch...however, there is the issue of lack of mounting holes. Alternatively...I might just have to get a longer spring? This is the one from DAA.

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