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Thread: Making that Bullet Collator

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    Quote Originally Posted by GWS View Post
    Ball bearings: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Spring Assortment: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1



    Zltech Green and Blue Silk: https://www.zyltech.com/new-zyltech-...-1-kg-2-2-lbs/

    Red silk from them is made my another manufacturer.....and was disappointing. Am trying to find another company to buy similar silk composite PLA in red.
    Awesome, thanks!

    What printer do you use? I've got an ender 3 with the micro swiss hot end, so prints so far have been usable, but not amazing, but I don't expect amazing from it. I haven't used any silk pla, but iirc, they generally like a little cooler temps? Or am I mistaken?

    I feel like asking for print settings is like asking for load data...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GWS View Post
    I only recently bought a .40S&W....well okay, 2 of them. (okay 5 years ago!) If I ever have to shoot something or someone in self defense, I don't want them getting up and shooting me back! That's why I like .45acp.....I know old school.....well I'm old, what do you expect? My favorite pistol is the one I shoot what I aim at best.....so far that's a Ruger SR40. Dang fine shooter even better than my .45's. I'd like to try 10mm next.
    Carried a G27 for 20 years. 45acp is my go to when it comes to pistol calibers these days. And hey, I can ring steel at 100 yards with my 45 Banshee 5" barrel so we might be on the same page.....

    That said, everyone should have at least one 9mm

    But now we are in to that "Ford vs Chevy" conversation, and we all know where that ends up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhyrum View Post
    Awesome, thanks!

    What printer do you use? I've got an ender 3 with the micro swiss hot end, so prints so far have been usable, but not amazing, but I don't expect amazing from it. I haven't used any silk pla, but iirc, they generally like a little cooler temps? Or am I mistaken?

    I feel like asking for print settings is like asking for load data...

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    Last day of July last year, I bought the "new at that time" CR-10 Version 2. All metal hot end but not direct drive. I liked the plate size. I've had my ups and downs with it, but I think I'm almost there.....thanks to TylerR, RedlegEd, and other teachers. TylerR put me on to polypropylene beds.....all my lifting problems went away as long as I clean it with 99% rubbing alcohol after every print. RedlegEd put me on to the super awesome, no moving parts, automatic bed leveling EZABL from TH3D Studio. Those two things are pure Gold!

    I usually print at 215C with a 65C bed. For fine prints like the feed dies I print at .12mm layer height. Takes a little longer, but the print is soooo smooth and dimensionally perfect. I now finally! have my stringing problems under control with these retraction settings:

    Retraction Distance 6.0 mm
    Retraction Speed 80
    Retraction Minimum Travel 1.5

    With those settings I Finally I can print those tubes with ZERO cleanup inside......LOVE IT!

    Walls: at least 2 sometimes 4 if I think I need strength.

    Top & bottom layers: are at least 2.

    TylerR: I don't shoot Glocks worth a .....nevermind. Ruger SR's are accurate and they fit my hands.....that's always a personal thing. I'd like to buy a Ruger .45 to try.....up to now I shoot Colts and Kimber single stacks. The Ruger SR40 is the narrowest double stack I've found. My hands are smallish and it just is an awesome feeling to be able to hit what I aim at every time. 9mm? I really don't want one....yeah I know that can hold enough rounds to shoot whole gang of bandits, but the .40 I like is a good compromise. My Kimber .45 Wilson mags hold 8....
    Last edited by GWS; 10-23-2021 at 09:05 AM.

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    I toyed around with the feeder last night and this morning. Was able to get consistent feeding nose up with the number 6 plate and a screw in the back to stand it off ever so slightly. Number 3 wasn't doing anything. Number 4 and 5 were inconsistent as far as all nose up. Every 12 or so at least 1 (maybe 2) would be nose down.

    Can't for the life of me figure out why but this seems to have solved the problem...

    Thank you guys for all the help. It's really awesome to see people devoting time to creating, open sourcing, and helping others in the community.

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    So the #3 was going the wrong direction.....ha.....so the bigger the number the more ledge....sorry I had it backwards.

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    So I ordered some blue silk pla and the spring and steel ball kit for the bullet feeders. Next step is getting the feed springs. hopefully I can actually get this thing finished and going! Which means, I need to get casting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhyrum View Post
    So I ordered some blue silk pla and the spring and steel ball kit for the bullet feeders. Next step is getting the feed springs. hopefully I can actually get this thing finished and going! Which means, I need to get casting!
    Just a word of caution. Make sure your printer is dimensionally calibrated as best as you can possibly get it. The dies do sort of require that. If you have never gone through this tutorial it is a great resource.

    https://teachingtechyt.github.io/cal...on.html#esteps
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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerR View Post
    Just a word of caution. Make sure your printer in dimensionally calibrated as best as you can possibly get it. The dies do sort of require that. If you have never gone through this tutorial it is a great resource.

    https://teachingtechyt.github.io/cal...on.html#esteps
    Yeah, I did just recently go through it and actually calibrate the e steps. I remember it took a bit of fiddling, since I believe it had been under extruding, so I had tweaked other settings to get things dimensionally correct, so once I got my e steps right, everything changed I'll be sure to double check all that before printing again, since I haven't ran the printer in a few months

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    Just want to share my experience wasting a lot of time tying to find another source for springs for TylerR's awesome bullet feeder dies. After a long Google search 3 times I finally found springs at McMaster-Carr that may work nearly as good as the ones I bought in the assortment pack for $11. You can order them in packs of 12 for about $12.....but then you have to pay shipping and tax for another $10.....so $22 for a measly dozen springs. https://www.mcmaster.com/9654K957/ Forget that.

    The Chinese spring Assortment, which I bought for $11 has 10 springs of the right size which is shown in my pictures of my finished dies. Amazon no shipping. But you have a large # of other springs to store and maybe never use of course. I did find that assortment at another amazon store for a little cheaper so I ordered that one too for extras. So I'm springed for life I think.

    Plus I think the round ends on the Chinese ones, being really just a flipped coil on each end allows for a neater closer, more professional look. I've got three built using 6 springs.....so I can now build 7 more as needed for other calibers of pistol and rifle. For me, should be enough.

    https://www.amazon.com/Performance-T...lspark_BIA_0_t. Of course I pay for Amazon prime which I use all year. So really how much am I saving? Who knows?

    The springs I use is the extension springs in the top left corner of the assortment. Crazy to have to buy all those springs....but it's the cheapest way I can find...and they fit like a glove.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GWS View Post
    Just want to share my experience wasting a lot of time tying to find another source for springs for TylerR's awesome bullet feeder dies. After a long Google search 3 times I finally found springs at McMaster-Carr that may work nearly as good as the ones I bought in the assortment pack for $11. You can order them in packs of 12 for about $12.....but then you have to pay shipping and tax for another $10.....so $22 for a measly dozen springs. https://www.mcmaster.com/9654K957/ Forget that.

    The Chinese spring Assortment, which I bought for $11 has 10 springs of the right size which is shown in my pictures of my finished dies. Amazon no tax. But you have a large # of other springs to store and maybe never use of course. I did find that assortment at another amazon store for a little cheaper so I ordered that one too for extras. So I'm springed for life I think.

    Plus I think the round ends on the Chinese ones, being really just a flipped coil on each end allows for a neater closer, more professional look. I've got three built using 6 springs.....so I can now build 7 more as needed for other calibers of pistol and rifle. For me, should be enough.

    https://www.amazon.com/Performance-T...lspark_BIA_0_t. Of course I pay for Amazon prime which I use all year. So really how much am I saving? Who knows?

    The springs I use is the extension springs in the top left corner of the assortment. Crazy to have to buy all those springs....but it's the cheapest way I can find...and they fit like a glove.
    Do you have a preference for the feed springs? The ones that go from the collator to the feed die?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhyrum View Post
    Do you have a preference for the feed springs? The ones that go from the collator to the feed die?
    How much of a rush are you in? These are the best quality and cheapest springs.

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3281...28844c4dYdm39m

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    not a huge hurry, direct from china is fine. what diameters would be best for 9mm and 300BO? could i get one diameter for the both? would 11mm be too small for 9?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhyrum View Post
    not a huge hurry, direct from china is fine. what diameters would be best for 9mm and 300BO? could i get one diameter for the both? would 11mm be too small for 9?
    I would go with the 12. that is 10mm ID.

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