Hi guys, i have a question or 2 about forming some wildcat brass

[.44 RF Express]

Hi everyone,
i was wondering if you could tell me what the best lubricant to use for forming wildcat brass.
my parent case is a norma .45basic and will be formed into a case with tapered walls, a throat for a .429 bullet(½" long) total length of case 2,755"
this is my first wildcat, i had the reamer made by PTG and the dies were made by Hornady.

cheers
Roger

[17nut]

Lanolin.

[racepres]

Imperial...all I have used for 30 Years...

[country gent]

I have used both lanolin and imperial sizing die wax for many years with excellent results. Lanolin is the old stand by from years ago. Keep in mind a little bit on the cases goes a long ways. To much and dings or collapses happen.

[M-Tecs]

http://www.sharpshootr.com/royal-case-die-lube/

[Preacher Jim]

that basic brass is good brass, lube with imperial size slowly you should be ok

[Idz]

Be sure to anneal the brass and smooth over any sharp corners in the dies. My latest 'wonder' lube for forming has been the cheap spray-on furniture polish from the grocery store. I also found that if you get 'too much' resistance when forming you can back out the case, re-lube it, rotate it 90 degrees and try again. There seems to be a lot of black magic in forming brass.

[BK7saum]

I just reformed a bunch of Lapua 423 Dakota brass to 300 Norma improved. Numerous steps and multiple anneals. Also had to neck turn. Lost 13 cases before I really go it figured out. Collapsed shoulders from neck telescoping into the case.

Sounds like you could size down in the one die of necessary.

[.44 RF Express]

Hi guys, just tried to size the first of my brass,
Now i just have to trim Them down .16"
What do you think?

[racepres]

^^ I think Spit would have worked on that job...
Got 'em formed...that's the main thing...

[tygar]

Imperial...all I have used for 30 Years...

Only stuff I use

[357Mag]

.44RF -

Howdy !


Whatever lube you use, please use w/ caution. Excess lube can lead to case dents.


With regards,
357Mag

[DocSavage]

Wouldn't it been easier to trim first then foam the case? I've done only a few case reforming 300 blackout and 40/65 and made the cases with a file and trim die.
Formed the basic case cut off exceed brass file,deburred then run case thru regular size die.

[racepres]

Doc, If I cut First..I leave em a bit long, get them formed, then trim after Fireform.
I dislike "short" ctgs.
On that 300 BO or whatever the other designation is..
I formed from 221 Fireball...the Original!! Very easy!!!
But..221 FB cost what 300BO cost for Brass...
I have Made Numerous Wildcats without "form" dies...but, From my [limited] experience with it...This one [300BO] is a Bit Tough!!!

Edit; Sitting here thinking if I had a Contender [or other single shot] in 300 I would Simply Fireform...Gonna try that...One Day!!!

[DocSavage]

Had a T/C in 7 TCU ages ago I just fired 223 ammo and viola TCU brass. On the 300 blackout I used a sawsall to cut off the excess brass from the 223 brass.
Most of the 223 brass I used was surplus military brass that is left in abundance at my range.

[racepres]

Had a T/C in 7 TCU ages ago I just fired 223 ammo and viola TCU brass. On the 300 blackout I used a sawsall to cut off the excess brass from the 223 brass.
Most of the 223 brass I used was surplus military brass that is left in abundance at my range.

I did/and do my 7TCU like that still.
Do you think the AR platform is OK for Fireforming with COW and a wax plug??


Damn!!!
Hi-Jack alert!!!!
We can continue this elsewhere....

[.44 RF Express]

noworries guys,

[kmrra]

I have always just used the RCBS sizing lube , Does the Lanolin work better , I have never tried anything else....I dont do a lot of case forming but on occasion I do when I dont have any brass for a gun I want to try out .

[racepres]

Imperial Size die Lube...
I have gave everything else a Serious try...
Only Imperial on my Bench.
Oh...for regular sizing operations...any of the store bought sprays or homemade concoctions is fine...Easy too...Heck "pledge" is OK...

[jlnel2]

I dented some 223 with to much lube going to 7mm tcu, I think I'll try just fire forming next time.