12 guage bird bombs

[rancher1913]

I used to be able to buy 12 guage bird bombs, they are 12 guage rounds that shoot a firecracker out to about 100 yards and then it explodes. they have worked great for scaring off coyotes but no one has them anymore, just the ones that you need a special launcher to shoot.

has anybody made their own. have some old blackcats that I think would work and I understand the principle but it might be better to go from scratch and use a better quality timed fuse and a "round" that would better fit the barrel.

having same problem with 37mm grenades but found a source for reloading those this morning and the "kit" they sell may work as components in the 12 guage rounds.

any real world experiance? feel free to use pm if you don't want to talk openly and I hope this does not break any rules, if it does mods feel free to delete it.

[GRUMPA]

I use to buy those years ago, wasn't cheap even back then. I'm going to watch this thread and see what shows up, inquiring minds just gotta know..

[Ithaca Gunner]

The old Dixie Gun Works catalogs had recipes for bombs you launched out of a 12ga hull. I tried them with (mostly) success, that is I didn't harm the gun. I'm not going to repeat the recipe here.

[dverna]

Ammo is available on line. Do a google search

AmmoToGo I think had them

Don Verna

[SWANEEDB]

Interesting--will keep a watch on this one.

[faustus]

Recently, and out of curiosity, I took a 12ga Flare apart ....

Here the pictures ....

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/j2k13tjcz...JcZ00Dzea?dl=0

Maybe that helps ...

[Skipper]

Here's the ATF regulations:

https://www.atf.gov/explosives/explo...e-requirements

[Geezer in NH]

They are called explosives now and a no-no by BATFE, they are in the E part. Not worth what they want you to jump through to have them.

[too many things]

my box is made by
Stoneco. inc
tridad co
as of this post i have not looked them up box is dated 1992
they used the Ative hull still have 15 .
be sure if you do get them to clean the barrel or it will rust in a week
they still show all info
PH number is 719 846 2853
onthis box

[rancher1913]

those are very similar to the ones I had but I guess nowadays you need an explosives license to buy them.

[Tackleberry41]

Guy I used to know got himself one of the 37mm launchers, what a waste of money that thing was. It really only worked as a big single shot shotgun, or to launch the premade smoke bombs. He had some sort of plastic finned bomb you could buy, with a fuse up thru the tail. But would end up being $6 a shot or something like that. He tried to find some way of making something, but was never cheap or easy.

Seems like the 12ga bird bombs are just a large firecracker in a sabot. Fuse is lit when fired. Seems like weight of the projectile would be an issue, as in to light. Years ago when younger, one of us got the idea to replace the shot in a 12ga with aluminum rivets, didnt even make out out of the barrel, just not enough for it to light properly.

[beagle]

Oh man, I sure miss my M-79 that I had to leave in VN./beagle

[popper]

Why not just SHOOT them?

[Sur-shot]

Sounds like it would be cheaper to just go to a fireworks stand and buy some 1 1/2 inch report mortars and a tube in a box. They will launch pretty good with a 2x wood reinforcement base and at a 45 degree angle. It is like shooting a blooper from the hip, once you get used to the trajectory you can get fairly close to stuff. So I have been told.....
Ed

[rancher1913]

have the fireworks tube and mortar and they are to much pyro, just need the loud crack. we do shoot what we can but they run the creek in packs and the bird bombs were the best way to make them think that the way opposite of my animals was the best way. have the 37mm launcher and it works just like the 12 guage rounds just maybe more intense but those things are way expensive and you need the license now a days. I miss the old days of chasing my brother with a stick of dynamite (true story).

[garandsrus]

What about using exploding bottle rockets? They would get out there 6o-70 or more yards before blowing up. Should be really cheap too.

[rancher1913]

bottle rockets don't have the reach or aim, I launch the bird bombs out to the max and they just barely get there. you need to drop the "bang" just ahead of the pack to turn them, shotgun blasts from the house doesn't faze them, they know the range of guns and how far out to stay, but that "bang" out of nowhere right in front of them really does the trick.

[Geezer in NH]

What you need are remote propane cannons. Set them up wherever and they time shoot on their own. The neighbors WILL hate you unless they are farmers themselves.

[Faret]

Why not just SHOOT them?

This!

[rancher1913]

we do shoot them, and trap them, and call them, and poison them. there are just too many and they are wise to all the tricks, they won't go near a dead cow because of us using that as bait and setting traps all around it. the bird bombs are just one little trick that still works and does not require hours and hours of my time. hauled hay from sun up till sun down today and don't have time to go hunting coyotes all night, maybe in another life.