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Thread: Favorite charge of red dot in 30-30

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    Favorite charge of red dot in 30-30

    What is your pet load 30-30 using red dot and I will be shooting NOE 311-155 or NOE K-31 boolit. Thanks

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    7.0 might be your lucky number. I use Unique or Herco at 8.0 with the 152 grain 311-466, but that might run a little rich for Reddot.
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    I have some herco and unique also but almost out of unique. I have great luck in most guns with herco but everyone seems to like red dot also and my lgs just got some in that was backordered 3.5 yrs so I grabbed some.

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    4.6 Runs nice with the little swc .314 90 gr sized down to .312.

    For 150 gr I would probably go up from there to 7 and see where I get good accuracy.

    There are other powders that can get you more speed in many cases.
    But few that sip so efficiently with so little impact on your wallet.

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    I realize that B'Eye and R-Dot are not the same powders , but on a burn rate chart , they are similar.

    I use 7.0 - 7.2 Grs. of B'eye in a lot of 30-30 rounds with fantastic accuracy.

    I shot this a few days ago.

    I had loaded 20 rounds with the Lyman 311359 in neck turned 30-30 brass with the 311359, sized to .310" with 7.0 grs. of B'Eye with a Wolf Large Pistol primer. & .014 " thickness Al g/cs that I make. Scope is a fixed power Burris Fullfield 6X.
    20 rounds fired @ 50 yards.








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    Old thread, but nice shooting Ben!

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    Looks like the perfect squirrel rifle to me. Good job Ben!
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    At 9 gr, accuracy drops off with 170gr PB.
    Whatever!

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    I love reading about other's successes using small doses of fast powders and cast

    the heavier the boolit, the better I like it, but sometimes compromise is required to get accuracy like Ben. (I sure wish I loved closer to him so I could get some mentoring!)

    my ultimate goals are:
    1) off the deck deer rifle load.... shots inside 50 yds
    2) off the deck 'yote rifle load.... " " 50 yds
    3) regular hunting rifle load.... " " 200 yds
    4) regular 'yote rifle load.... " " 200 yds
    5) FurFriendly 'yote rifle load.... " " 100 yds

    for the deck gun, almost anything will do. I have read about success 100grains and up, 900fps and up
    for the regular hunting gun, 170-200grains is most often successful with MVs anywhere from 1500-2400fps

    I have quite a few 30-30s.
    3 bolt action Savage/clones
    2 break action Savages (I ABSOLUTELY LOVE the styling on these!)
    2 Handi rifles (one with 18" barrel)
    1 158
    1 157
    1 very old Win94
    1 not as old Win94

    one of my Savage 219's is going to be AI'd and loaded with 125-130gr hard wrapped bullets
    one if my Savage 219's is gong to be dedicated to PP'd boolits

    (I Think?!?!?!?!)

    ARRGGGHHHH!!!!!

    I am overwhelmed with options...

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    6.5 gr. red dot under 160 gr. LGC. -
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    I'm still at 8 grains Red Dot under any 150-170 grain lead bullet in 30/30.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nanuk View Post
    I love reading about other's successes using small doses of fast powders and cast

    my ultimate goals are:
    1) off the deck deer rifle load.... shots inside 50 yds
    2) off the deck 'yote rifle load.... " " 50 yds
    3) regular hunting rifle load.... " " 200 yds
    4) regular 'yote rifle load.... " " 200 yds

    5) FurFriendly 'yote rifle load.... " " 100 yds

    HELP!!!!
    Having killed numerous deer and coyote with cast bullets I suggest a more "normal" load with a 150 - 180 gr cast bullet over a medium burning powder such as H335, 748, RL7, 3031 or H4895 if those are your goals, especially #3 & #4.
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    I have had some success with fast powders but it seems more medium burning powders work better for me. This is a 30-30 Win, 99 Savage, @ 50 yards with iron sights.

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    In my 94, 7.0gr of RD give me 1.5moa at 100y with 160gr cast. 1200FPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Gibson View Post
    Having killed numerous deer and coyote with cast bullets I suggest a more "normal" load with a 150 - 180 gr cast bullet over a medium burning powder such as H335, 748, RL7, 3031 or H4895 if those are your goals, especially #3 & #4.
    Yeah.
    I think that would be my best move for the longer ranges. I don't think I want to be lobbing them. they DO need arrive with some authority

    I have 3031, H335 and slower powders, so I do have options for medium to heavy boolits!
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    I use 8.2 Grains behind an old NEI 170 bullet. Works great on hogs and paper!

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    In My Encore and Marlin 336, I get good results with 150 gr. cast bullet over 7 grs. Red Dot or 8 grs. BR-5 sparked off by a Win Large Pistol primer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stubshaft View Post
    I use 8.2 Grains behind an old NEI 170 bullet. Works great on hogs and paper!
    Any idea the velocity?
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