I would not use paper as a replacement for special steel shot wads, which are much tougher than the common wads used for lead shot, you will scar your barrel.
I would not use paper as a replacement for special steel shot wads, which are much tougher than the common wads used for lead shot, you will scar your barrel.
Another thought... the paper might tear as the payload leaves the cartridge and enters the forcing cone especially if using 2 3/4" hulls in a 3" chamber. If the paper tears then the steel shot could get to your barrel. I'd test with lead shot first then recover what's left of the paper tubes to see if you can determine if they shredded or tore. if they are layered and glued they should be pretty tough so a tear should show up.
You can order bismuth shot from Will Bilozir in Alberta. He is a Canadian BPI distributor.
You can also order Mylar and Teflon wraps and it might be a good idea to use Mylar or Telflon wraps inside your paper tube then if the tube does tear the wrap will contain the shot. Hmmm, Mylar and Teflon wraps are used with shot anyway so maybe easier and safer than using paper though not readily available. Now having said that if these wraps are safe with shot then even your paper tube shouldn't need a closed bottom as I first said.
Testing should tell you anyway. Good plan.
Longbow
Why are you not using std wads made for steel?
http://www.ballisticproducts.com/Mul.../products/652/
how about shotcups made from plastic milk jugs, there is a fellow on here that is finding it works for pistol shot loads so it would just be a bigger cup.
As you're using brass hulls you're obviously also using, probably, a hard card and fiber cushion wad. Paper shot cups should work fine. I use them in all my BP, brass case loads. I would question whether or not they will protect your bore from the steel shot, not whether or not they will work as a shot cup.
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Do you have Tetra pak type of cardboard pacs in the States? They have plastic or wax coated cardboard that might be suitable for this need.
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I use plastic wads in brass shells, but, mine are 20ga.
I am in the process of loading some original brass 12 ga. shells with black powder. I have developed a pattern with 5 petals, made from file folder stock for a shot cup. I load the BP, an over powder card, then fiber cushion wad(s), the shot cup/shot, and cards to make the up the rest of the column height. I haven't shot any of these, but I don't see why this shouldn't work, the shot cup is between wads so should stay together. At least, I hope. Time will tell.
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I know this is and old thread but I've been working on building some short (2") shells and tried a paper sleeve made from sheet rock joint tape that actually worked well. My purpose was to keep cast #1 buck off the barrel as in the plastic wads using straight walled hulls with gas seal, cushion wad and assorted fillers to build the column and still keep the shot from leading the barrels. I cut the tape into 2.5" pieces and using the fold line built into the tape halved the cut pieces. after figuring out the shot column height I cut some tabs and pre-folded them to the middle of what became the shot collar and also made a partial base for the cup and the shot to sit on. The collars didn't appear to slip or crumple up. From the pictures
they appear to have stayed in place to the muzzle where they were torn by gas expansion. The paper wasn't pierced where the pellets rode the bore as is seen in the plastic wad. I measured no significant velocity change between shells with paper collars an those without but didn't record an improvement in pattern density that I was hoping for either.
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You said you would use 'BB' size shot. BB's for air rifles are much harder than 'steel' shot made for loading shotgun shells. Air rifle BB's can damage your shotgun barrel due to hardness. I hope you were talking about shotgunning steel shot.
Im definitely going to start making my own wads and cards. I went out a couple weekends in a row shooting at the little range on my sisters property they set up....yeah...plastic everywhere.
I just ordered a punch off ebay to make the cards and wads with...just need to get some cork and whatever else I can use that will degrade quick.
I know if I had property and someone wanted to shoot or hunt i dont want plastic wads all over my woods.
BB sized shot is .186 , size B is .177 as is air rifle shot . For clarity only .
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