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Thread: Lil' Gun discontinuied?

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    Well 762, I'd be happy to do that as soon as you send me $5000 to buy the two rifles and all the components. (I won't hold my breath....) LOL !

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    Just emailed Chris Hodgdon on the status of Lil'Gun.

    I will post his reply when he responds unless he want to post it himself. I included a link to this thread.

    I love it for my Hornets.

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    From Chris Hodgdon

    "No sir, Lil’Gun is alive and well. There will be no powders discontinued for 2017 but will have quite a few new ones

    Thank you for your interest in Hodgdon and feel free to get back to me if I can be of further service

    Regards Chris"

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Tecs View Post
    From Chris Hodgdon

    "No sir, Lil’Gun is alive and well. There will be no powders discontinued for 2017 but will have quite a few new ones

    Thank you for your interest in Hodgdon and feel free to get back to me if I can be of further service

    Regards Chris"
    Finally, the definitive answer to the OP.

    Why did everyone go off on a tangent about whether or not Lil'Gun burns "hotter" than other powders? It has nothing to do with the OP.

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    Simple, because "experts" have to be heard, even lacking any evidence.

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    Old post, but I just picked up a lb from LGS last week

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    Lil'Gun contains a higher amount of nitroglycerin than most powders of it's burn rate. Thus the heat. And yes, I agree that it is very hot burning.

    Short bullets fired in revolvers were the reason for throat erosion with max charges of 296/H-110 and perhaps other slower burning ball type powders due to the rear of the bullet crossing the cylinder gap before the bullet was even half way finished being pressed into the bore. The answer to that problem was to either use another powder or longer bullets in revolvers, specifically the .357 Mag.

    Nothing whatsoever wrong with Lil'Gun. It has lots of great uses. But it might not be the best for many other uses. No powder is perfect for all, except maybe real ole home made Black Powder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brstevns View Post
    Old post, but I just picked up a lb from LGS last week
    5 year old necrothread with the rumor debunked by the manufacturer themselves and you post you found a pound?

    Ban him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Michel View Post
    I've discontinued using Lil' Gun in my hornets. Although it did produce good accuracy with outward signs of low pressure, I had punctured primers on too many occasions to be a coincidence. This was occurring in three different rifles. I never saw this phenomenon with 2400, IMR4227 or W296. It seemed to me that something wasn't exactly stable in the pressure department. Has anyone else experienced this issue?
    Quote Originally Posted by imashooter2 View Post
    5 year old necrothread with the rumor debunked by the manufacturer themselves and you post you found a pound?

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    Finding any useful powder at this point is reason enough to raise the dead.

    Ive read far too many accounts of cutting and erosion from this powder in revolvers to entirely discount it. Never used it but id be cautious if i did. As for rifles, no idea but id be surprised if it burned barrels in any reasonable loading. If anyone has rifle information id like to hear about it out of curiosity.
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    All that I have gleaned from this and other internet discussions is that LilGun probably should not be used in revolvers. I use it in the 300BLK and it does heat the barrel more than other powders, but I have not seen any damage to my barrel, and have been using the primer flattening and case head measurements of fired brass as my pressure indicators.

    So far, it has been the most gentle of powders to my fired cases.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
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