Complaints, complaints, complaints

[salpal48]

I follow this site and other on a regular basis. in the past year or so. I have heard more complaints about loading equipment new and used than ever before. I have been loading going on 50 years . never once did I buy stuff that did not work . not that I liked it . but it all worked. . Even used stuff. . I do a lot of Gun shows. and there is a lot of used stuff. . If it's used it's used.
I,v heard people had things for a year and wanted the dealer to take it back. Is is most people don't want to spend any money or are most buyers today just stupid.
. used items are that way because someone else . screwed it up or you screwed It up after You bought it . or should I say "Bubbasized"
All brass can't be once fired.
all Primer can't be Ng
There has to be some tolerance with things.
the same complaint time after time. and the same remedy. " give some money back and the problem is solved."
This hobby is in a sorry state of affair. As one dealer said to me @ a Penn gun show. never sell a Rifle Right before hunting season. . You get the return after opening day.
well that's it
Complaints

[Mauser48]

I haven't had any problems with my equipment. Maybe its just the user.

[IllinoisCoyoteHunter]

[Ole Joe Clarke]

Pass that popcorn over here.

[salpal48]

Have Butter on that Popcorn

[Huvius]

I agree to an extent.
It seems that most consumers these days expect easy peasy results without properly and adequately informing themselves first.
It can be said of everything reloading. Ask the question for the quick answer before taking the time to dig into the resources literally at your fingertips.

Now, having said that, I personally have zero complaints with any of my reloading equipment as I am still very satisfied knowing that I can take some scrap lead, some discarded brass, powder and a primer and manage to concoct some cartridge that will actually shoot pretty damn well in my guns!
I can always use my **** dies for another unintended purpose.

[mdi]

Everything, even tasks like reloading, takes effort. Effort to learn to use the equipment and effort to learn why a particular tool is used. Many folks today do not extend any effort on research, or logic. If they don't get the results they think they should, instantly, the tools/equipment is junk. Actual troubleshooting is unheard of and most of the time instant answers are expected, and need/want to be lead by the hand to a solution for their problems...

jes an old machinist/mechanic's opinion...

[runfiverun]

nope everything is built to fit everything else perfectly.
somebody flat thought out the best boolit the best powder the best gun and everybody else made their stuff to work with it.
out of purple sorry.

[triggerhappy243]

I dont see it all as arguments... I see it all as difference of opinion. As far as tooling goes, I dont buy junk.

[lightman]

I have had a few die sets that just would not work. A 45 ACP and a 30 Carbine that would not size the case enough to hold a bullet. A 22 Hornet sizer that you could not screw the expander up far enough for it to clear the case webb. That company is not in business anymore. I replaced these with RCBS and never looked back. For the most part, the reloading equipment that I have bought has worked as advertised. Some folks just don't need to be reloading!

[alleyoop]

I like the term "Entitlement reloader "

[OS OK]

This sounds like an opening statement made by an attorney, 'generalizations and hearsay'…now you need to get 'specific' and prove something or another.
Like I used to tell my journeymen who couldn't do this or that as instructed…"Don't give me a bunch of excuses, give me a 'reason' for this or that. Let's get specific or we'll get nowhere fast!"

OS OK

[fryboy]

Some people can't make a bread and butter sandwich without messing it up .... And then there's those who's complain that you put them out wrong if they was on fire ....the more I interact with people the more I like my dog ...

[OS OK]

Some people can't make a bread and butter sandwich without messing it up .... And then there's those who's complain that you put them out wrong if they was on fire ....the more I interact with people the more I like my dog ...

Hey fryboy…My dog says Hi to yours…he likes him too! Long time 'no seeya'…charlie

[Ole Joe Clarke]

I need another cuppa coffee and more popcorn.

[Shawlerbrook]

You can satisfy some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.

[nagantguy]

I've had great luck with used reloading gear, had some new things that were broken, incomplete, wrong out of the box from the manufacturer. It has seemed to me in the last few years the quality control and over all quality of raw material has decreased in just about everything with some notable exceptions. Tools, guns, vehicals, lumber, seems it's getting worse instead of better. I'd never expected someone to fix for free what I broke or misused or bought used and bubbad but I also hate buying new with anything and having it be ****. But I do think alot of the trouble is with bad raw materials, recycled Chinese steel, lumber that would have never left a mill a few years ago let alone go to a job site is all you can find. Lee, Remington and Taurus all seem to be having QC problems, as the gun boards are full, absolutely full of complaints the last 2 or 3 years, couple that with bad materials and your going to have problems.

[joesig]

I have been loading going on 50 years . never once did I buy stuff that did not work . not that I liked it . but it all worked. . Even used stuff. . I do a lot of Gun shows. and there is a lot of used stuff. . If it's used it's used.

I've been reloading for 35+ years and your luck has been better than mine. I have had a few problems. The worst was a .416 spud in a .375 neck expander die. "Worst" being defined as a few minutes at the lathe and I had a spud the way I wanted it.

Some people just have better luck. To the best of my knowledge my father has never gotten a flat tire. I've lost track of how many I've had.

Then again, I have learned what to expect from things Green, Blue, Orange and Red. You pay your money, take your chances and give a little TLC when needed.

[mold maker]

Old friend of mine used to diagnose the complainers as having a bad case of "Operator Head Space", or " Ventilated Cranium".

[daboone]

Fry you nailed it.

If there no dogs in heaven then I want to go where they go.