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Thread: Lee 358-105-SWC in 9mm & 357Mag, my results

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    Lee 358-105-SWC in 9mm & 357Mag, my results

    Bought my first Chrono to test my cast boolits.

    Lee 358-105-SWC
    Powder Coated
    Using isotope lead with 2% tin so my boolits weight 109gr

    COAL 1.018 to 1.010
    TiteGroup 3.7gr

    Using Springfield 1911 9mm Range Officer 5” barrel

    Number of shots: 17
    Extreme Spread: 63
    Average Velocity: 1121
    Standard Deviation: 16
    Average Power Factor: 121.8

    Temperature: 60°
    Barometric Pressure:30


    Then I made some puff loads for 357Mag.


    Lee 358-105-SWC
    Powder Coated
    Using isotope lead with 2% tin so my boolits weight 109gr
    COAL 1.550
    TiteGroup 3.7gr

    Using S&W 686 357Mag 6” barrel

    Number of shots: 13
    Extreme Spread: 93
    Average Velocity: 827
    Standard Deviation: 26
    Average Power Factor: 89.7
    Temperature: 62°
    Barometric Pressure:30


    Lee 358-105-SWC
    Powder Coated
    Using isotope lead with 2% tin so my boolits weight 109gr
    COAL 1.550
    TiteGroup 5.0gr

    Using S&W 686 357Mag 6” barrel

    Number of shots: 14
    Extreme Spread: 74
    Average Velocity: 1019
    Standard Deviation: 23
    Average Power Factor: 110.6
    Temperature: 62°
    Barometric Pressure:30

    As I get the chance to test more, I'll post my results here. Maybe others with there chrono results can post here as well.

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    Lee 358-105-SWC
    Powder Coated
    Using isotope lead with 2% tin so my boolits weight 109gr

    COAL 1.010 - Failure to feed in SA 1911 9mm
    CFE Pistol 4.7gr

    Using Springfield 1911 9mm Range Officer 5” barrel

    Number of shots: 11
    Average Velocity: 1105

    Average Power Factor: 139

    Temperature: 86°
    Barometric Pressure:30

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    Lee 358-105-SWC
    Powder Coated
    Using isotope lead with 2% tin so my boolits weight 109gr

    COAL 1.010 - Failure to Feed
    CFE Pistol 5.0gr

    Using Springfield 1911 9mm Range Officer 5” barrel

    Number of shots: 9

    Average Velocity: 1200

    Average Power Factor: 130

    Temperature: 86°
    Barometric Pressure:30

    Problems with Chrono in bright sunny weather. Wouldn't read boolits till I Sharpied them black.

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    Lee 358-105-SWC
    Powder Coated
    Using isotope lead with 2% tin so my boolits weight 109gr

    COAL 1.008 - Failure to Feed
    Bullseye 3.8gr

    Using Springfield 1911 9mm Range Officer 5” barrel

    Number of shots: 10
    Extreme Spread: 43
    Average Velocity: 1097
    Standard Deviation: 13
    Average Power Factor: 119

    Temperature: 90°
    Barometric Pressure:29

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    Lee 358-105-SWC
    Powder Coated
    Using isotope lead with 2% tin so my boolits weight 109gr

    COAL 1.020 - Failure to Feed
    Unique 4.4gr

    Using Springfield 1911 9mm Range Officer 5” barrel

    Number of shots: 14
    Extreme Spread: 96
    Average Velocity: 1051
    Standard Deviation: 25
    Average Power Factor: 114

    Temperature: 91°
    Barometric Pressure:29

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    Lee 358-105-SWC
    Powder Coated
    Using isotope lead with 2% tin so my boolits weight 109gr

    COAL 1.010 - Failure to Feed
    IMR PB 3.3gr

    Using Springfield 1911 9mm Range Officer 5” barrel

    Number of shots: 12
    Extreme Spread: 98
    Average Velocity: 931
    Standard Deviation: 24
    Average Power Factor: 101

    Temperature: 91°
    Barometric Pressure:29

    So, my COALs caused a lot of Failure to Feed problems.

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    357Mag loads:

    Lee 358-105-SWC
    Powder Coated
    Using isotope lead with 2% tin so my boolits weight 109gr

    COAL 1.585
    Bullseye 7.4gr

    Using S&W 686 6” barrel

    Number of shots: 12
    Extreme Spread: 81
    Average Velocity: 1352
    Standard Deviation: 25
    Average Power Factor: 147

    Temperature: 91°
    Barometric Pressure:29

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    357Mag loads:

    Lee 358-105-SWC
    Powder Coated
    Using isotope lead with 2% tin so my boolits weight 109gr

    COAL 1.585
    TiteGroup 7.5gr

    Using S&W 686 6” barrel

    Number of shots: 9
    Extreme Spread: 69
    Average Velocity: 1379
    Standard Deviation: 23
    Average Power Factor: 150

    Temperature: 91°
    Barometric Pressure:29

    Love using these bullets for 357Mag! Probably will forgo using them in 9mm.

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    I just started working with my new chrono also. Learning a lot, but I cannot shoot for accuracy with the chrono, I'm too concerned with shooting my new toy !

    Thanks for the time put into reporting this info. I keep meaning to do the same with some 44Mag info, but it's a lot of typing.
    How far from the muzzle was your chrono ?

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    Bookworm,
    My chrono was set about ten to twelve feet from my muzzle. Yeah, you should post your 44Mag data on this site to help other casters. I didn't see any chrono data for my cast boolits. Most people seemed to guess how fast their loads traveled but I rather have some solid data for safety.

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    I've tried getting that Lee 358-105-SWC to work for the mid-size .38 SuperComp that I'm building, but it will not reliably feed. The 124 gr TC design works a lot better for it though.

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    Good stuff!

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    Attachment 180935

    If you place your target behind the chrono you can see if that load will group at the same time. I get back 10 yards with the chrony about 12 feet in front and have a go at it freestyle like you normally shoot...or go off the benchrest, no biggie. The point for me is to gather as much information as I can off very few rounds as test rounds take longer to make than a production run.
    My boolit catcher is a plain plastic trash can full of ground tire mulch for the garden. You can get the lead back too...I'm so cheeseparing with the PB!

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    OSOK, what is your sacrificial target backer board? How many impacts before you need to replace? Thanks

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    Smith Wesson 629 PP and 686 PP, 617

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    It's a chunk of 1/2" OSB chipboard stuff, screwed on with 1/2" phillips head sheet metal screws from under the trash can rim...doesn't take long before the center is blown out but if you staple one of these rubber floor pads to it the pad will take staples for the targets and go a long ways.
    A neighbor was throwing them out...they are some kind of rubber floor pads about 20-24" square that interlock together like puzzle pieces and about 1/2" thick also. Sorry I don't know what they are called.
    It's a great way to keep your hard begged lead. Every time I empty it I get about 8 lbs. of my own boolit metal back...can't beat that huh?
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    Excellent. Thanks. I have toyed with the concept for awhile. Just haven't been able to convince myself that the backer board would not be the weak link.

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