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Thread: Carrying a Tokarev, it's like an improved 1911

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyC View Post
    When the CZ Custom Shop does a Tok (ok, a Zastava M57 specifically):

    Man I like that a lot. I wonder if I could get it in 9 x 23 Win.

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    I really think the Tok and the 7.62x25 is underrated. AndyC, that is a gorgeous Tok! Wow!

    Anyway, I carry one frequently and feel very well armed. It's accurate, shoots flat, and is powerful. What more could I ask for? The fact that it can defeat body armor (some body armor at least) is just an added benefit.

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    If there was any round that could potentially contest the idea that the 9mm is the “best” self defense caliber, the 7.62 X 25 might be it. Mild recoil, high velocity and some potential to fit in a gun designed for increased capacity.

    Just thinking out loud here.

    If I had available a five inch plastikpistole of modern type design in the caliber I’d buy one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyC View Post
    When the CZ Custom Shop does a Tok (ok, a Zastava M57 specifically):

    ...and where does one get a Tok with a 1911 safety/mag release and beavertail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combat Diver View Post
    If it works for you then by all means carry it, good read but still not sold

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    I’ll stick with my 1911’s or my HP, but I won’t try to change anyone’s mind as long as they don’t try to change mine.

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    I would like to see the same type of thread on the Makarov, a pistol I should have bought when they were available for $100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyC View Post
    When the CZ Custom Shop does a Tok (ok, a Zastava M57 specifically):

    Love those sights

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOPHER SLAYER View Post
    I would like to see the same type of thread on the Makarov, a pistol I should have bought when they were available for $100.
    You mean the improved Walther PP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyC View Post
    When the CZ Custom Shop does a Tok (ok, a Zastava M57 specifically):

    I looked at CZ custom shop but I don't see an option for Tokarev. Was this available at some point in the past?

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    No, this was apparently something that one of the Custom Shop guys did for himself - I posted it to show what's possible with desire/expertise.
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    Thank you for raising this from the dead. This thread was a great read. I have always been interested in the Tokarev, but have passed on it a bunch of times. Now it is on the list for sure

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    many moons ago, i bought a yugo tokarev from classic firearms.
    was unissued or as close as you can get.

    this was back when 30 round ar type mags were 'scarce'.
    i traded 3 nip magpuls for a case of surplus ammo.

    i bought a box of s&b ammo for the brass.
    got a lee loader (whack a mole) in .30 mauser to load them.
    .311 lee mold.

    i like the pistol and liked the slenderness of it even more.

    nice in the collection and never a problem but i prefer my 1911 in 9x19.

    i prefer to carry my LCP or my g26.
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    My former boss loved Tok's and collected them. He had over 175 the last time we talked. When we shot together he brought a 44 mag revolver or a 9mm auto. His Toks were just for show.
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    Generally speaking; what type of accuracy can you get from a Tok in good condition? Seems like it would be a really flat shooting round.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GOPHER SLAYER View Post
    I would like to see the same type of thread on the Makarov, a pistol I should have bought when they were available for $100.
    I have a couple but prefer my CZ 92. Double stack mag and steel construction. Used to cost about the same and mine was literally unfired in the box when I got it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wch View Post
    Improved 1911? I'm not sold either!
    ^^This^^

    Minuscule cartridge. If the gun is so great everyone would have one, there would be lots of custom builders and it would be taking the IPSC, IDPA, etc world by storm. Just another Soviet-era, western-design stolen pistol. Great that the OP likes his, but it is not for most people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumbcocker View Post
    Generally speaking; what type of accuracy can you get from a Tok in good condition? Seems like it would be a really flat shooting round.
    My 1953 Polish with handloaded Hornady .309" diameter, 90 - grain XTP assembled with 7.4 grains of AutoComp in Starline cases with Federal 200 primers, gives 1450 fps and shoots an 8-round magazine into 4-5 inches at 50 yards, and to the sights.

    Using a neck hold on Army E silhouette you can keep them all on the silhouette at 100 yards or metres. MY M1911 WON'T DO THAT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outpost75 View Post
    My 1953 Polish with handloaded Hornady .309" diameter, 90 - grain XTP assembled with 7.4 grains of AutoComp in Starline cases with Federal 200 primers, gives 1450 fps and shoots an 8-round magazine into 4-5 inches at 50 yards, and to the sights.

    Using a neck hold on Army E silhouette you can keep them all on the silhouette at 100 yards or metres. MY M1911 WON'T DO THAT!
    A couple things. 1450 fps with a 90 gr. bullet is small potatoes. 8 to 10 moa accuracy is nothing to brag about. What kind of *** 1911 do you have or do you mean that with 45 acp you have to hold above the head instead of on the neck. Oh, my 7.62 x 25 shoots 60 gr. XTP's at 1700 fps and 60 grain sabotted .22 cast bullets or jacketed 45 gr. soft points at over 2000 fps.

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    I think they are UGGGlee
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