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Thread: What should I do with these? 223 cases with loose pockets.

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    What should I do with these? 223 cases with loose pockets.

    During the panic I bought 1000 5.56 LC brass cases from a member here on this forum. Here it is a couple of years on and I'm just now getting around to using some. But no. All of these have loose primer pockets. Dunno if worn out or whether somebody got crazy with their swager.... I wish I could figure out who I got them from. Even if only to shake my fist at them.

    Anyhow, man, I really cannot just toss these into the scrap just yet. There has to be some hope to re-use them somehow....

    Suggestions? I know there is a tool out there to re-tighten primer pockets but since I'm not going to be reloading 223 in the future I'm not interested in that work.

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    have you tried a different brand of primer

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    It's not the primers. You can see a raised edge around the pocket where the brass moved out of the way for the swager tool on more than a few of these cases.

    I really wish it was that easy.
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    Someone really got heavy handed with their Dillon gizmo!

    You can "move" the brass back in place with a gasket punch of the right diameter. It will be a long slow process because you have to mount each case so you can get to the head and get the punch in there and hit it hard enough (and repeatably enough!) to swage the brass back down all around the primer pocket.

    Probably a modified shell holder with a large center hole?????????

    You would have to make a gauge to test every one to see if you moved the brass enough.

    A THOUSAND of them????????????????

    Sounds to me like it is time to watch scrap brass prices and jump when it goes back up!!!!!

    Good luck!

    banger

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    As I said, *I* am not going to mess with them. I guess it's to the scrap pile... Seems a shame.
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    Not sure if it's possible but could they be reamed to LRP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwells72774 View Post
    Not sure if it's possible but could they be reamed to LRP?

    Could be done if you have a metal lathe, the correct tooling, and lots and LOTS of time on your hand.

    I pick up tons of that brass (many 100's of rounds) at the range ever time I go and, for me, would not be worth the time. Take it to the scrap yard, get the going brass price, and buy some lead. Now that would work!

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    recycle them

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    I have heard of people drilling them out to use 209 primers with pellets. Tho have never really tried to find out what drill bit is used. If anyone has done that would like to hear your experience with them. Todd/3leg

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    Somebody could cut them down to make 35 cal jackets for swaging.
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    Hurts, but I'd scrap them and buy these...

    http://monmouthreloading.com/product/lake-city-556/

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    I send enough perfectly good .223 brass to the scrap yard, seems like the right place for defective stuff.

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    You can make 35 or 351 WSL cases from them. Will function in most rifles, even with no semi rim.

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    Rw hart makes a case saver tool to tighten up the pocket.

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    I would be skeptical about the safety of reforming the primer pockets, which can only be done on the outside, and extraction of the fired primers, slightly bell-shaped, would probably undo it. I also don't trust the strength of small cases reamed to large rifle size. What you need is a .375 rifle (not .35), since they can be used to make jackets for swaged bullets.

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    A guy I know built a swaging die to push .223's through that reduces the web area by .001-.002, enough to hold primers securely again. This my work for you also.
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    I always try to make a half dozen or so dummy cases for each caliber I load. I drill four holes across each cartridge, near base, to readily see they're dummies. Sized and trimmed like the real McKoy, I also seat my bullet as for live ammunition. I fill the primer pocket with hot glue. 'Specially cycling cast boolits often becomes a challenge, and I'd rather have a dummy to remove than a live round if/when one gets stuck. (Common in Rem 14's if everything's not +/- 1/zillionth of an inch to firearm's liking ).
    I feel badly for you re your "1,000 or so"... but, you can readily make a few test dummies from them -- and should you get one stuck, really be ahead of the game as opposed to -- imho -- getting a live round out.
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    Scrap. They are not worth much more in good condition.
    I'm just the welder, go ask him>

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    String them up and make wind chimes out of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie2002 View Post
    String them up and make wind chimes out of them
    Shiny Xmas tree garland, maybe?

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