Linebaugh's .45 colt loads

[StrawHat]

Oh come on, everyone knows Rugers are built like tanks.



Kevin

[44MAG#1]

"Oh come on, everyone knows Rugers are built like tanks."

Are you inferring that a Linebaugh load blew up that handgun? Do you know the load used?
What is it you are trying to say?

[pmer]

I still think your better off with a 454 if you have to lean this hard on a 45 Colt. Unless you have a heavy duty custom 5 shot 45 Colt. IIRC the 454 wasn't around when Linebaugh was doing this load development? IMO Mid level Ruger only loadings are plenty good for me especially after dragging a few deer. I kinda think Mr. Linebaugh used his heavy loads as a aid or step to help sell his custom 45 Colts; which are really nice.

[44MAG#1]

Does anyone have any factual proof that any of Linebaughs loads have blown up any Ruger large frame revolver?
Not the he said she said stuff. None of the "I feel" stuff either.
Actual factual proof.
Too much speculation on here on this.

[w30wcf]

How do you all feel about his 4227 load?

I have shot capacity loads of 4227 under the 454424 bullet in my circa 1974 3 screw 7 1/2" Ruger Blackhawk.
As I recall, velocity was right around 1400 f.p.s. and the cases practically fell from the chamber.

w30wcf

[Moonie]

The loads that Linebaugh lists are right around 30,000psi, well below what is required to part out a large frame Blackhawk...

[outdoorfan]

Not much payoff for as much risk as 12.2gr Unique puts on the Ruger. 1041fps is ehh almost rather dismal in comparison to results gained from using LilGun, H110, and 2400, which his load of 13.8gr 2400 is afaik under the recommended starting weight of 15.0gr for this boolit. Unless he is seated pretty far down in the case.

People -do- go 10gr and beyond in this caliber in the full size Ruger, you sure as hades won't catch me doing it or advising anyone else to do it. Have you ever touched one off with a heavy boolit and 10gr Unique? It's scary! It is very noticeably sharp in your hands. You know you are close to the edge, you can feel it!

My load notes show that I once tried 10 grains behind a 342 grain heavy weight. I do remember recoil being rather sharp. Accuracy sucked!

[StrawHat]

Oh come on, everyone knows Rugers are built like tanks.



Kevin

I posted this because no matter how strong someone makes an object, someone else will figure a way to destroy it. This is a photo I found on the internet a few years ago. The revolver was chambered for the 44 Magnum cartridge. While it has nothing to do with Linebaugh, it does show what can be done if you err.

Kevin

[44MAG#1]

"posted this because no matter how strong someone makes an object, someone else will figure a way to destroy it. This is a photo I found on the internet a few years ago. The revolver was chambered for the 44 Magnum cartridge. While it has nothing to do with Linebaugh, it does show what can be done if you err."

Right you are. But select placement of said photo inferred that these loads may cause/did cause the said grenading of said handgun in said photo.
My question still stands, does anyone know of any factual proof that any of Linebaughs loads have blown any quality handgun of proper size? No he said she said, no hand me down verbage by some internet whiz ect.

[Vann]

According to Linebaugh, White Laboratory tested the 45 Colt Rugers and the didn't come apart until they reached 60,000 cup. Then you factor in that the major powder companies data goes to 30,000 psi. So yeah, I feel pretty comfortable using Linebaugh's loads in my Ruger.

[Moonie]

I posted this because no matter how strong someone makes an object, someone else will figure a way to destroy it. This is a photo I found on the internet a few years ago. The revolver was chambered for the 44 Magnum cartridge. While it has nothing to do with Linebaugh, it does show what can be done if you err.

Kevin

So someone overloaded a 44 magnum and destroyed their handgun so we shouldn't load 30,000psi loads in a similar gun that can handle 40,000psi in the cartridge that was obviously overloaded??? I'm confused now.

[Gunslingerdoc]

I really like his H110 loads, BUT you will want a better set of grips to shoot them! (At least that's the route I went). I, too found Unique at around 10gr. to be a solid performer.

[white eagle]

I have used some of Mr.Linebaugh's loads and he has done a very good job
with the 45 colt.My only problem with them is I could never get a gun worthy of them.
Most of my Rugers never gave me the accuracy I need.I believe its the spec's and tolerances
they seemed to have had.
His loads will not only wake the gun and cartridge up but the shooter as well.
good luck have fun.

[w30wcf]

I posted this because no matter how strong someone makes an object, someone else will figure a way to destroy it. This is a photo I found on the internet a few years ago. The revolver was chambered for the 44 Magnum cartridge. While it has nothing to do with Linebaugh, it does show what can be done if you err.

Kevin

There was a .44 Magnum destroyed by a novice reloader a few years ago.
Don't know if that was the one or not.

The load he thought he was using was 9.0 / Titegroup.
Dissected cartridges contained 19.0 / Titegroup !!!!

w30wcf

[30calflash]

Getting back to the OP's question, you see that his Unique loads stop at the 260 grain cast and go no further for bullet weight. The start load looks like a good one for most hunting instances and will be the one I start with.

The H4227/H110/Win296 loads should be great for the heavy bullet combos, as mentioned here. Or if you need more than the Unique loads will get you.

[TXGunNut]

Does anyone have any factual proof that any of Linebaughs loads have blown up any Ruger large frame revolver?
Not the he said she said stuff. None of the "I feel" stuff either.
Actual factual proof.
Too much speculation on here on this.

My "feelings" may have kept me from blowing up perfectly good guns. I don't need my Ruger to do all it can do, it can do more than I want and it will shoot thru anything I need to shoot thru. I won't ask any more of it.
Ask John Linebaugh how many guns he's blown up. I'm a fan of his work but work like his is hard on guns. Elmer Keith blew up his share and then some but the knowledge gained was well worth it.

[44MAG#1]

Why ask Linebaugh how many he has blown? Do you know the answer?
Not for one second do I believe he would publish any load that he would know as dangerous to a shooter or his guns.
If one prefers not to load to his load lever, for what ever reason, does not mean for one moment that his loads are dangerous.
On Keith, where have you seen in his writings that he has blown up his share and then some. In his writings I have the evidence of TWO. One was when a weak case head blew due to probably cases used too many times and that blew the loading gate off the fun and one that he said was an el cheapo that the cylinder and top strap went.
If you have more information, as evidenced from his writings and not some he said she said or I feel this way or that info, please post it.
I have heard of that info for so many years there must be someone with proof from his actual writings to actually back up the info.
Show where more than two actually blew not including a 45 Colt that had the barrel split at the forcing cone. Actual blow ups that is.

[Old Coot]

For me 1000 to 1200 fps is plenty in the 45 Colt. A 250 to 300+ gr. bullet will shoot through anything on this continent. With components getting scarce and me getting older I'm not so quick to try the hottest cartridge or load out there any more.

Load what you want. Just keep it within sensible limits. so you don't blow up a gun or hurt yourself. High mid range loads don't make as much noise as the wrist snappers and fire belchers. With my hearing fading that is also a concern. Not so much at the range where I wear ear protection, but in the field hunting you can court deafness very quickly. Brodie

[pps]

I have used Linebaughs loads, and continue to do so. My favorite is the 325 grain boolit over 13 grains of HS-6 with a mv approx 1100fps. No leading and very good accuracy. I prefer this load to the max load of 23 grains of H-110



Below are the results of the same boolit driven with HS-6 at 1100fps (left column) and with 23 grains of H-110 on the right column.

[Good Cheer]

Sorry fellas but hot rodding a .45 Colt is about like putting ethyl in a Ford diesel tractor.
But like Roger Miller said, you can do it if it'll make you happy and you've a mind to.