#28 or 97 needed for Ideal tong tool

[William Yanda]

Gents
I have a wtb posted for the above. Anybody got one or know where to find one?
Thanks
Bill

[Pavogrande]

MR, CMR or DA ??

[Green Frog]

MR, CMR or DA ??

What he said. Or do you need the whole set?

Froggie

[William Yanda]

28 is MR, 97 may be DA, I don't know. Both #'s are listed in the MR-DA column in the Ideal Quick Reference.
No, I don't need the whole set, I have a dedicated 32-40 combination mold, reloading tool.
Bill

[Green Frog]

28 is MR, 97 may be DA, I don't know. Both #'s are listed in the MR-DA column in the Ideal Quick Reference.
No, I don't need the whole set, I have a dedicated 32-40 combination mold, reloading tool.
Bill

OK, now I'm starting to understand, but I'm wondering whether you are taking advantage of the fullest potential of the tool you have. It is designed to neck size and decap in one stroke when you use the (separate) decapping spud in the die and simultaneously decap and neck size. Then you expand the case mouth a little if needed (most of these tools will do this on the outside of the built-in die) add a fresh primer and powder and seat a bullet, using the same die. The only additional sizing you should have to do is if you are full length sizing the case so it can be used in multiple chambers. For this you will need one of the push-through dies or a FL die on a full sized press. Please be sure to write if you need any further help with this, and if for whatever reason you still need a MR or CMR die, the 310 Shop will make one up for you for $25.

Regards,
Froggie

PS FWIW, I'm pretty sure I do have an extra one of those push in sizers if you decide to go that way.

[Green Frog]

OK, now that I've read the posting in S&S, your situation becomes clear! If it were me, I would treat that tool as though it were a later one and use a complete die set with it, but if you want to just neck size (to do everything else on a separate tool??) you could get by with a modern MR or CMR (to also decap) die, but it would be blued rather than nickel plated. If you want the whole process you can either go with a DA die only and use the separate decapping spud as described in my previous post, or go with the CMR and DA dies available from the 310 Shop (or perhaps one of us here if you get lucky.)

To be historically correct, you need a nickel plated #28 DA die (either single or double adjustable) and the decapping spud, parts I don't see for sale all that often. Whoever sold that tool to you without the die didn't do you any favors in that respect!

Regards and Good Luck,
Green Frog

[William Yanda]

Thanks Green Frog
I agree about the "favor" thing. It was on the 'bay, seller seemed to be an opportunist like myself. If nothing else it's an inexpensive .32, 165 gr. single cavity mold! I think I will go for the 310 made die and manufacture a decapping plug myself. This would make a better set up for an individual rifle rather than feeding multiple chambers.