Need help

[osu007]

Hello to everyone. I am new here, and turned to this forum to hopefully get some answers. Hopefully I am not posting in the wrong area. If I am, please let me know so I can correct it. I inherited some cast projectiles. They came in a large coffee can, and the only info I can find is a piece of paper, marked 45acp. These were cast by an older gentleman, back in probably the 70's or 80's. The only other info I can come up with is from his ex-son-in-law. He told me he has a piece of paper showing 45 LC sized to .451 or .452. He can not tell as it is old hand written. I measured a few and they measure .451. I have weighted several and the weights are 217-218 grns. These are round nose. Appear to be flat based (could be beveled as they have been rattled around), with 1 lube groove. I have looked and looked for load info and nothing for these bullets. I have also searched several different mold makers and have not had any luck in finding anything close to these particular bullets. The older gentleman was living in California, around the LA area. These bullets shoot phenomenally well out of a sig 220. I mean, they punch one ragged hole with a powder charge I formulated. No signs of excessive pressure, and accuracy is great. (better than a revolver out of the sig 220. Anyway, Can anyone tell me if they have ever had to try to find something like this, or know of a mold that will make these, or direct me as to where I can find a mold and try to cast my own or pay someone to make some more. I really do not want to run out of these. They are honeys . Did not appear to be much leading. If anyone has any ideas, Please let me know. If some can tell me something about them or how to identify the mold, Please holler. I would be more than happy to send one to someone if it would help. They also grouped pretty good out of a colt lw commander. Thanks in advance.

[PbHurler]

Could you post a picture? This would be most helpful in a possible ID.

Oh, and welcome to the forum!

Just as a shot in the dark; here's a link to a H&G #519 mould, Photo states 200gr with linotype which would drop heavier with a WW type alloy. The description is a bevel base mould, but was also available as a plain base.

http://www.hensleygibbs.com/molds/519.jpg

[Tatume]

Welcome aboard,

Here are two versions of the mold I recommend. I have no way to know if it is the same mold that made your bullets, but it is close. If you make good bullets from these molds, they will shoot as well as the bullets in your coffee can.

http://www.midwayusa.com/find?userSe...ery=452-200-RF

Here is a better picture of the bullet itself.

http://leeprecision.com/6-cav-452-200-rf.html

Here is another likely candidate.

http://www.midwayusa.com/find?userSe...ery=452-228-1R

http://leeprecision.com/mold-dc-452-228-1r.html

If you specifically want a bevel base bullet without the crimp groove (for the auto pistol only), this is one to consider. It does not appear similar to your description, but it's worth looking at anyway.

http://www.midwayusa.com/find?userSe...=DC+452-230+TC

http://leeprecision.com/mold-dc-452-230tc.html

I recommend the six-cavity molds, as they are very high quality and produce buckets of bullets fast. You will have to purchase handles separately, but one set can be used for multiple molds. It only takes a minute to take them off one mold and put them on another.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/117...ProductFinding


Take care, Tom

P.s., if you really, really want an exact duplicate of the mold that made your bullets, send a couple to Tom at Accurate Molds and he will make the mold for you, in one, two, three, four, or five cavity configuration.

http://www.accuratemolds.com/

[Tatume]

Now that you're about to be hooked on casting, start looking for lead. Clip-on type wheel weights are best, if you are fortunate enough to know a tire shop that will sell them to you. Range scrap is also an excellent source of lead. In the alternative, you can buy either metal cast into ingots here:

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/foru...pin-amp-Sellin

You should also look for tin, usually to be found in the form of solder or pewter. You can often find that in the forum also. While not strictly necessary, adding about 1% tin to your alloy will make it easier to cast consistently good bullets. It acts as a wetting agent and allows the lead to flow easily into the narrow crevices of your mold.

While we're at it, I also recommend the Lee Magnum Melter Furnace

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/709...ProductFinding

and the RCBS dipper

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/283...bs-lead-dipper

Others here prefer bottom pour pots, but I have both and prefer the dipper method. It's what I recommend, you decide for yourself.

Start reading the stickies and posts here on the forum, and you'll learn everything you need to know to cast 1000s of bullets to last a lifetime.

Have fun, Tom

[osu007]

[osu007]

Here is a couple of photos of the bullets. They look like the hensleygibbs mold photo. Thanks All.

[Doggonekid]

Does not look like RCBS too pointed.