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Thread: Triple Seven fffg Catridge Catastrophe???

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    Boolit Mold
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    Here we are, NO Blackhorn 209 to be bought.
    So a friend did a deep dive into stock pile and found triple 777 in 2F and 3F so sticking to the DATA ,guess some 2F is in my future for 38-55.

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    To me, wouldn’t 3fffg t-7 be ok in pistol cartridges? Not much other use for it. I use 2ffg T-7 in my 43 Mauser antique. It shoots ok but kicks the heck out of me.

    Do any of you use 3fffg black powder in rifle cartridges, specifically an 150 year old antique? Where would you say the pressure is on this use?
    Last edited by Gobeyond; 04-09-2022 at 07:14 PM.

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    Boolit Buddy Gobeyond's Avatar
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    Just use 15% less to start and add a wad!

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    I use Tripple fffg in my 45-70 TDs [original and H&Rs]. I load 46 gr (by weight) of it under a 16-1 cast Lee 458-405-HB sized .4615 and lubed with my BP lube (beeswax/olive oil). OAL is 2.572. Measured psi (Oehler M43) runs right at 28,000 (the SAAMI MAP) and 1334 fps out of a 24" barrel.

    I use fffg BP in the 45-70 also now that Goex Cartridge isn't available.
    Larry Gibson

    “Deficient observation is merely a form of ignorance and responsible for the many morbid notions and foolish ideas prevailing.”
    ― Nikola Tesla

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check