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Thread: 45/70 care package consultation needed

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    45/70 care package consultation needed

    I've only been shooting 45/70 for 15 years or so, so I'm still learning, and need some experienced counsel regarding plain based bullets, hardness, velocities etc.
    I have Browinings, Rugers, Pedersoli Sharps and Rollers, as well as Marlins. Over the years my go-to bullet has evolved to heat treated, checked .360 Ranch Dog 350s or RCBS 300s pushed by 26 grains 2400, which gives a pleasant load with good accuracy in all my guns.
    My as cast alloy is about 12-13 BHN which heat treats to the mid 20s without pushing any limits and can runs to a painful 2000 fps with accuracy and never a trace of leading. I've recently started powder coating, but haven't given up old lubing practices quite yet... call it double insurance against leading..

    A friend just received a beautiful Shiloh Sharps and from my reloading shelf stock, I'm making up a care package for him:
    RCBS 300-FNGC
    RCBS 400 - FNGC
    NOE 440 FNGC
    Ranch Dog 350 FNGC
    Lee 300 plain base
    Lee 400 plane base
    Lee 500 2R GC
    RCBS 500(525?) Long range silhouette Plain base.


    All will be Powder Coated, lubed, and checked, except plain base designs, of course.
    I expect his velocity to be held to 1400-1500 fps.
    Should I provide him heat treated or as cast alloy?
    At 1500 fps or below I don't know that even the gas checks are required, though in practice I've always used 'em.
    What say you guys?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pls1911 View Post
    I've only been shooting 45/70 for 15 years or so, so I'm still learning,

    A friend just received a beautiful Shiloh Sharps and from my reloading shelf stock, I'm making up a care package for him:

    What say you guys?
    Give him a box of the RCBS silhouette bullets, a 45 caliber powder compression die, and two pounds of 2F black powder.

    CM
    Last edited by montana_charlie; 12-25-2014 at 10:22 PM.
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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check