parker hale??

[ForneyRider]

I have a P-H 1200 Deluxe in 7mm Mag. It's a great rifle. Mauser action.

Originally, my model had a 2-tone stock with nice spacers.

The rifle is very accurate.

I have seen my model go for 300-800.

There is a Presentation model with some engraving.

There are Varmint models with bull barrels.

[Four Fingers of Death]

The midlands were available here as well. They were virtually half the price of other new sporters. A friend who had a gunshop said the PH mob came accross a warehouse full of 03' bolts and as they are the most expensive part of a bolt gun, built the actions to suit. I had a few friends who had them and I can't remembering them having any trouble. They weren't real flash, but worked ok. The ones I saw were from the same gunshop and if you bought a 100 rounds of ammo off him with the rifle, he would take it to the range come Sunday, set up the scope properly and sight it in, etc. I wouldn't go out of my way to buy one, but the rest of PH's products were fine rifles.

[pietro]

[The Parker-Hale Mauser action is usually a Santa Barbara after some quality control.]

What was referred to above as "original" P-H rifles being the Models 1000, 1100, 1200, etc, isn't quite correct - as P-H made Mauser 98 based sporters in the late 1950's & early 1960's ( before there was such a company as Santa Barbara making them), that were commercial Mauser actions manufactured with the thumb notch in the left receiver wall, but not converted military's - since the scope mounts are integral with the action rings.

I have a .30-06 P-H Safari DeLuxe, so marked on the left receiver rail/wall, that came to the US from Birmingham, England (on the barrel) in a duffle bag in the very early 60's - 1961 IIRC.
The person who brought it home had found out, over there, that the Safari's were Europe-only models (at that time) - and decided to grab one.

Mine has the integral receiver scope mount dovetails, for the propietary P-H Roll-Off Rings (and the rings, with bottom ring lugs ala Ruger rings), a Circassian Walnut stock w/dark streaking, scnobble forend tip and a modest cheekpiece ahead of an issue rubber recoil pad - which I've finally had to replace last year because it's rubber was crumbling.
It also came with issue open sights, the folding rear on a small island.

The rifle looks more like the S&W lightweight Model D (?) made by Husqvarna, IMO, than any of the later P-H's - especially the econo models like the Midland, etc.

[hedgehorn]

I have looked at a few PH's and I didnt know that they were a mauser. I have only seen pictures but they look very much like a BSA that I have in 7MM rem mag. Mine has a light colored almost blonde stock with a rosewood forend tip and grip cap. Has anyone else got a BSA rifle?

[Nash]

I just picked up a Parker-Hale 30-06 at a local gun show. Only markings on it other than that are Importer Jana Denver Col Serial # 86XXX. Any ideas on age etc.? It was completely spray painted gloss black. Got it for $120 plus a few primers.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

In process of removing spray paint now.

[charger 1]

I just picked up a Parker-Hale 30-06 at a local gun show. Only markings on it other than that are Importer Jana Denver Col Serial # 86XXX. Any ideas on age etc.? It was completely spray painted gloss black. Got it for $120 plus a few primers.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

In process of removing spray paint now.

What model? At any rate the metal you scored is worth that and then sum

[Nash]

Charger1

I am really not sure the model. I can not find any additional markings on the gun other than BRN.

Just took it to the range and it appears to shoot well, at least better than I expected.

Nash

[ForneyRider]

Hunter's Life forum has a couple of guys on there that are real experts on Parker Hale. One guy's nick is BritHunter.

1200 deluxe had a real nice 2-tone stock. Looks a lot like the Weatherby with high Monte Carlo cheek piece.

I see the PH's go for $800-1000 on Gunbroker in very good condition.

It is Mauser 98 style action.

My bolt body replacement with Interarms X Mauser bolt body did not result in any loss of accuracy. I did have to take it back to 'smith twice for fitting. My brother broke the tips off when shooting a 270 Win round through the Rem. 7mm Mag.

[ridurall]

My first deer rifle was a Parker Hale Ser # Z-71xxx. My father picked it up for me in 1969 when I was 13 years old and it's chambered in 30-06. It's been a fine shooter. As for 308 Norma Magnum, I've got a 30 Belted Newton that I use 308 Norma brass for and it's very close. The loading data is about the same. Mine is built on a 03A3 custom action. I picked it up in 1974 and it's still a tack driver. I load it with 69.5 Gr of IMR 4350 with a Nozler 180 partition and WW 120 primers. After all these years it will still shoot 1/2 MOA at 2915 FPS.

[Nash]

More info on the "Custom" black spray paint finished P-H 30-06 I picked up last week.

After black spray paint removal, the marking on barrel and receiver is BNP with a proof crown of some sort. Hinged floor plate, bottom end metal is aluminum or zinc.

The stock is two tone, Weatherby-like in appearance with cut or pressed (can't tell, still has paint issues) line checkering. It did have a high cheek piece but I had to remove it since I shoot leftie.

The bore looks half way decent despite still pushing out green/blue patches after a week of brushing and swabbing with Hoppes No. 9 several times a day.

Turning out to be a good project/beater gun as my first center fire bolt gun (I usually shoot levers). I have probably already gotten my $120 worth of enjoyment out of it.

Nash

[pietro]

[The bore looks half way decent despite still pushing out green/blue patches after a week of brushing and swabbing with Hoppes No. 9 several times a day. ]

You might want to consider running a half-dozen patches/brush, loaded with Hoppe's Copper Solvent, ILO the #9.

I had the same issue, with my son's .300 Win Mag. I wanted to do him the favor of cleaning it for him - but it wasn't cleaning with #9.
I switched to the copper solvent, and "Presto" ! I was done in another five minutes.

It turned out later, he said he had been shooting solid copper slugs.

[Nash]

Pietro,

Thanks for the advice. I picked up some Hoppes Copper terminator and it slicked up pretty good. Unfortunately, I am in the process of relocating and will not get a chance to shoot it again until I am settled.

[NoDakJak]

I have a Safari Deluxe chambered in 3006 that was built before the Santa Barbra actions were used. It has what appears to be a Black Walnut stock that exhibits Fiddleback figure and has a schnobble tip. It has what appears to be machine cut checkering that definetly could benefit from some cleanup with a hand tool. It has a very fine commercial 98 action with the notch for clip in the siderail but where the stripper clip should fit is just a square slot in the rear ring. Serial number is the letter A followed with three digits. I had originally assumed that this action was an FN but an article that I came across in I believe an old Gun Digest stated that they were a commercial version made by CZ and imported into England by Parker Hale. The Santa Barbra action was produced at the La Coruna Arsenal in Spain and was a sound action. When they changed actions they also replaced their fine, semi classic stock with a bastardized Weatherby plank. I have to admit that all that glitz and flash sold a lot of rifles for them. The Santa Barbra action was rough compared to the action that it replaced and I polished the working parts of the action on the couple that I owned. The main thing that I didn't like about the Santa Barbra was the shank on the bolt handle. It was hell for stout. Chunky and unsightly! It lacked the grace of the CZ, FN and Mark X actions. Despite my nit picking it was still a very good rifle. Buy it and don't look back! Neil

[pietro]

Here's some pics of my P-H Safari Deluxe:

(top, above a custom 1931 Winchester M-52)

[NoDakJak]

pietro: Beautiful rifle.Looks almost to mine. My rifle does lack the integral scope bases however. It also does not have the sling attachment on the barrel. I have owned it since the late seventies and have no intentions of ever letting go of it. I made that mistake once shortly after aquiring it and then was forced to trade an almost new S&W Model 19 to get it back. I ws wondering about my sanity about that deal for several years as I had almost twice as much money invested in the S&W. I realize now that I most definetly got the best of that deal. It shoots equally well with a load of IMR 4350 behind either 150 or 165 grain jacketed bullets and is the only 3006 that I have owned that will shoot under one inch groups. I have never run a cast boolit through it but that will be remedied this summer. I have shot several Whitetails and Mulies with it but for some reason have never used it on antelope. Hmmm! Neil

[NoDakJak]

I really like the looks of that Model 52. How about a little more info on it? I presently have a Model 52A in the rack that is awaiting a similar transformation. Neil

[pietro]

Thanks for the kind words - The M-52 custom is Pre-A, pre-Speedlock, made in 1931 and customized in the 70's or 80's. I'm not sure, because I bought it already done, off a used gun rack, about 8 years ago.



It's pretty typical of customized early target models - the ones that had the medium-heavy barrels, ILO the later bull barrels - done when someone couldn't get a gennie Sporter.
The barrel was shortened from 28" to 24", and a ramped front sight installed, with the action D/T'd for the scope mounts.
It was sporterized by a custom gunsmith out of Northwestern Mass (Greenfield ?) - I found out because I ran into him by chance at a gun show a few years ago.

[Mike442]

Nash stated above: "After black spray paint removal, the marking on barrel and receiver is BNP with a proof crown of some sort. Hinged floor plate, bottom end metal is aluminum or zinc."

I came across a rifle the other day with that same proof marking and was wondering if anyone can tell me anything about it? Is this a Parker Hale proof and would the receiver be a Santa Barbara? Or is this someone else's proof and would the receiver possibly be made by a different manufacturer? Thanks in advance for any info you may have.

Mike

[Bass Ackward]

Pietro,

You have good taste in guns.

[brookecjwilson]

I have a 243 safari super limited edition that I have not been able to find an accurate appraisal on, my husband bought the gun for me and I really love it. It is one of the most accurate guns I have ever shot. I like just the iron sights and within about 1/2 diameter I can group all my shots at 100 yds. very quick trigger though. I would love to find another one like it, but havent been forunate enough to have seen one.