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Thread: max velocity for WW boolits without gas check???

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    max velocity for WW boolits without gas check???

    What is the aprox. max velocity for a 44 mag. cast boolit using WW without a gc? This is for a 7.5" barrel and powder is h110. The particilar boolit is from the lee six cav TL430-240-SWC micro-groove with lee liquid alox. Also, should this boolit be sized?

    My 454 handles 2000 fps no prob WITH gc on ww.

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    Alloy, hardness, boolit to chamber throat to bore fit, and lube are all going to contribute to what velocity you can run.

    Not being a .44 mag shooter, my GUESS would be 1400 or a little more with proper boolits.
    Seems like I read something along those line associated with Elmer Keith.

    Others on this forum will no for sure.

    Shiloh

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    As Shiloh mentioned, there are a lot of variables here, not the least of which is the gun. guns are individuals, what mine like yours might not. I have loaded my 14" barreled 44 to 1645fps with a 250gr ww cast(water dropped), JPW lubed boolit. Although it was not the most accurate, it didn't lead.

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    ok, sound reasonable to me. All I needed was an aproxamation.

    Thanks guys.

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    Are these velocity expectations/parameters uniform throughout bore sizes? What I mean is will SRH .480 Ruger achieve similar velocity range with similar quality control of the revolver?
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    As others have started, there are lots of variables, but I have not been able to get velocity about 1,2000 fps in my 44 magnums without more leading than I like. I am refering to plain base wheel weight bulllets here. I can push the same bullets as fast as they can go without leading when using No. 2 alloy.

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    With ball powders like WC820 or 296 I can get 1550-1575 FPS out of my Super Blackhawk with mild leading. With hot burning flake powders like 2400, Blue Dot or Unique I get similar mild leading just above 1000 FPS and the leading's intolerable if I go to maximum power loads. Somebody was asking yesterday why gas checks are used on .44 Magnum boolits. That's why. But the cooler burning powders will let you get by without them.
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BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
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