Before I got into casting and reading all the great info here I bought some cast bullets for my 30/30 that were beveled base and lubed with a red hard lube. I think it was some outfit Kansas bullet if I remember right they are now out of business. Well I never liked them and I prefer a gas checked bullet in my rifles except I shoot a hollow base in my 45/70. Well since I just got this 450 lubrisizer I decided to try to put a gas check on these beveled bases and see if they would grip. I never thought to try it with my lee sizer. Yep they grip the base just fine. I am using up some Ideal checks I bought at a rummage sale on these as I prefer hornady ones better. Even so with the ideal ones they are gripping the beveled base fine and they look like they were made for the bullet. Works for me now I will shoot these up.