Nipples that take small pistol/rifle primers

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

I think Jon still has caps , I have sent a few people his way , he seems to have the stock but is not a site most people know about http://www.addictedtoblackpowder.com/2.html

[jjarrell]

Recently I bought 3 new unopened Accra-Shot primer adapters with 1/4x28 threads for my muzzleloaders. I also picked up 1000 Remington 7 1/2 small rifle primers and headed to the range. I have to say, I like the nipple very much. The rifle seems to have more of a "crack" with the hot bench rest rifle primers as opposed to the RWS 1075+ #11 caps. Accuracy was as good or maybe a little better. I wasn't having ignition problems with any of my rifles, I simply wanted to try primers and I stumbled upon the Accra-Shots for a great price. It also seems like the powder burns more completely, as there was less fouling left in the bore. I was expecting to have problems getting the spent primers out of it but didn't. I tipped the rifle on its side and they fell out with a couple of taps. I was most certainly pleasantly surprised.

[jjarrell]

Federal 205m small rifle
Federal 210m large rifle
Remington 7 1/2 small rifle bench rest
Remington 9 1/2 large rifle

[jjarrell]

CCI BR4 small rifle
CCI BR2 large rifle

[PatMarlin]

Wow… interesting.

I now see why I like CCI. Looks like a nice controlled ignition.

Wonder how Winchesters would measure up?

[aspangler]

I have one of the Dixie gun works adapters on my TC Renagade and have no trouble with it. It uses a spring to hold the primer in place so no unscrewing the top. It works without a missfire with a standard ML hammer. YMMV

[jjarrell]

PatMarlin, I'm not sure about Winchester primers. I haven't seen that they make small rifle primers. That doesn't mean they don't though. I have heard that Win large rifle primers are pretty hot because they are designed to ignite ball powders.

Aspangler, I haven't seen the one from DGW. It doesn't have a cap to encase the primer? Interesting. Do you have a picture Of it? I got all3 of them for $24 so I couldn't pass them up.

[Duckdog]

There's no caps to be had by me, either, so I just make my own. I use a tap o cap and some prime all powder that I mix up and I have very hot caps. The prime all is actually the old H48 primer mix from the WW1 days. It is very effective, but corrosive.

I see that 22reloader.com is selling clone of the tap o cap for anyone interested.

[PatMarlin]

How bad is the corrosion? Wondering. Never used corrosive propellent of any kind.

Anyone reloading 22LR? Have to do a search and check that out.

[jjarrell]

I also saw where you can use the crushed heads of strike anywhere matches and is use them to remake pistol primers. I'm sure it would probably work for #11 caps.

[Duckdog]

I load a lot of 22 LR and caps as well. What happens, is the potassium chlorate in this mix turns into a salt of sorts, and causes corrosion. It is not different that the older surplus ammo with corrosive primers. The trick is, to just use good ole water to rinse it off before regular cleaning. It removes this salt where powder solvents will not. Then it is pretty much cleaning as normal.

I must admit, it is fun to mess with. I have a mold from old west bullet molds that casts the heeled 40 grain 22 LR bullet. I made a sizing die, case mouth expander, and I bought a crimping die. Seating is just done by hand. I use either `1.5 gr of Unique or 700 X. For priming, I made a dipper with a small pistol primer soldered on one end of a stiff piece of wire, and a large rifle on the other. I give a dip of priming powder in the small pistol end.

As far as the percussion caps go, it is just a matter of punching them outa d priming them with a dip of priming powder in the small pistol end. A drop of acetone and a small disc of paper seated on top of that, and wall, a very good cap.

In any case, after dumping the priming powder in either a 22 LR or the cap, it must be wetted with something. I use acetone because it evaporates so fast.

Pat, can I hear those gears or yours turning way over in Wisconsin? Lots of room for potential as far as products go!

[PatMarlin]

Yep… gears in my head always turnin' (can never shut it off… lol) but I've shied away from combustable components. Just be my luck some dumb as blows hisself up with a primer cup or something made from my dies.

I designed a damn nice set of cap making dies. So far they have remained in my domain on the bench…

[PatMarlin]

Dropped some nice bullets from a TC 54cal I picked up at a gunshow for $10.. !

Drops like butter. I think it was unused.

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[Fly]

I have a mag spark & really like it. Shotgun primers so much cheaper also. BUT most of my uses for #10 & #11 caps are for my revolvers.
I use a lot more caps shooting those.

Fly

[mooman76]

How bad is the corrosion? Wondering. Never used corrosive propellent of any kind.

Anyone reloading 22LR? Have to do a search and check that out.

I'm not sure why people have a problem with corrosive propellants in primers for BP. The powder used is corrosive in it's self so the point seems moot. Someone here posted about soaking the toy paper caps in water for one minute. Then scraping the powder from like 5 caps increments and letting it dry. Then using that as the propellant to make caps and having good results.

[54bore]

Dropped some nice bullets from a TC 54cal I picked up at a gunshow for $10.. !

Drops like butter. I think it was unused.

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What the heck is this Pat?

[PatMarlin]

That's my secret weapon for the 1859 sharps I'm working on…

It allows me to use and set my OAL on any 54 cal cast bullet (not just a Christmas Tree), in a cartridge case so I can take preloaded cartridges to the range and work on load development. Resurrecting Berdan's Sharp Shooter sniper rifle with some new high tech help… lol

[Randolf]

Has anyone out there seen a black powder nipple that takes a larger rifle primer? I had one but lost it then I was hunting.

[mooman76]

Are you talking #11 rifle primer or musket cap nipple?

[Good Cheer]

There was an adaptation to the Mag-Spark devices that enabled the use of regular metallic cartridge primers (in lieu of 209's).
The ones I have are 1/4-24 thread for use with TC rifles and M6x.75 thread for use with the Lyman GPR / GPH and some other foreign guns, and both type use 209 primers.

Something to note about the metric thread Mag-Sparks, I got one to use in a fast twist forty caliber Great Plains Rifle.
And it didn't fit my rifle.
Then I found out that there are actually different nipple lengths for GPR's depending upon when your rifle was manufactured.


That GPR had been bought second hand, long after the initial purchase, and then rebarreled to .40 bore.
So, there you go.