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    S&B brass sucks

    With all the cold and wind lately I started to get my reloading done for summer. First thing to do is load the bucket of 9mm. This is a mix of range brass . Using my 356402/ 4.2/231 load with Tula primers. That darn s&b brass will jam up the 550b most of the time as the primer will not seat flush or just get started in. This wastes a primer and jams up the works!Clint

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    You could separate and deprime and swage the primer pocket before putting in your Dillon.
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    S and B is my favorite 45 brass. never tried 9mm. the 45 stuff is great.
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    Crimped primer?? Sounds like it.
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    Sorting brass is part of good reloading practice, especially with the primer size variety in 45s. I have found some nines that have a shelf inside, half way down, and a concave base, "ammoload" headstamp. If you want lousy brass, look for the 4 element headstamp chinese junk that still shows up now and then....

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    S&B brass is my favorite in 223 especially when I reform it into 7mm TCU.

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    Yep, the 45 brass is great. The primers are not crimped, but the hole is a little tight. The rifle stuff I do not like at all. Most of it seems to have a shallow hole and the primers stick out a little.

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    That was my experience with S&B 9mm brass when I loaded some years ago: the primer pockets were all a little shallow and too tight. It was a chore to get the primers seated correctly with an RCBS hand primer. I can imagine how difficult it would be with a progressive. I would just sort them all out before starting.

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    The S&B large rifle primer brass I own has shallow primer pockets, but that means it is just right for using a large pistol primer with mouse fart loads. I have no experience with their pistol brass.

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    I sort as I pickup and know that I hate S&B brass But missed about 20-30 in 3000. Some go others don't just a pain!!Clint

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    S&B brass is not the best out there to many problems with the primer pocket and the flash holes tend to run small. I have been running 38sp for my model 52 S&W and try to sort out all the odd brass. Well that being said I did have a bunch of odds and ends collected over time. I dumped everything 38sp in the tumbler. I couldn’t get my hand to dump the S&B in I set them aside for swapping or a gift to someone who has more patience than I do. The idea is just load it and shoot it as plinking ammo. I think I can shoot 38s as cheap as 22 now. I should do a survey on the odd head stamps. The neat one is some OLD UMC marked cases.
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    All the s&b 9mm brass I find gets scrapped out. I don't run across much of it but when I do it gets tossed in the brass bin.. I HATE priming s&b brass.

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    I haven't had any trouble with S&B in 45ACP.

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    I have had the same problems.This is why I sort pistol brass by headstamp.
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    S&B and Speer auto pistol brass goes in the recycle bucket at my house. Good brass but a PITA to prime. My Kimber never liked the rather generous bevel on the rim of the .45 ACP S&B brass, tended to chuck it right at my face (I'm left-handed) but behaved with other headstamps with the flat heads.

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    I load S&B 9MM, the primer pocket is on the small side but with Winchester and Fiocchi small pistol primers I have no problems. CCI and Wolf primers seem to be very tight.
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    S&B is among the best brass. I only hand prime and love it.

    Have 16000 rounds of once shot Speer 40sw. I only load it once and put it back in a new bin. Seems great too.

    I never understood why people want to make better than factory ammo and take shortcuts like priming brass without chamfering the primer pockets on tight brass.

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    I sort my S&B out, and swage the primer pocket, after having the same problems as the OP does.
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    I had some trouble with S&B 9mm and it turned out to be steel. Looked like brass though.

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    The S&B 9mm brass goes straight to the scrap bucket. The primer pockets are shallow and tight. Any other S&B brass that I've used has been fine.
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