35 Whelen Redux

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or this

Blammer ... good shooting my friend. that would qualify for the stuff that tips elk over.

I got my 375 Ruger back yesterday and blistered my arm with it so im all the more anxious to get the 35 Whelen or the 375 Whelen in the works ... man this Ruger round is just over the top for me.

this post makes me want to trade my 375 Ruger for a 35 Whelen ... I like what im reading and like the already configured chamber/loads going for it. I like the Winchesters and Rugers so may just keep me peepers open when the dust settles for one chambered in the 35 Whelen.

I wouldn't mind seeing some photo's of these various boolits ... just to see what ya'll talkin about. maybe some gun porn as well. HA

[35 shooter]

TxGuNut...good luck at the range. If it doesn't work out the way you hope, maybe try it again when you get your new lube going. It might make a difference. My brother tried the imr4350 in his h&r 35 whelen today in co. He was only shooting 3 shot groups @ 75 yards and he got a tight cloverleaf @ 52 gr. His bbl. is only 22 inches so i guess it liked the lighter load? He was using simple lube on his 200 gr. NOE's. Hope that load holds up for him!

[TXGunNut]

Thanks, looking forward to this range trip.
Already looking forward to the next trip as well. Cast a little pile of NOE 360318 boolits tonight. As soon as a couple were cool enough to handle I loaded up some dummies and cycled them thru Ol' Ugly. SWEET! Feed just like JSP's (best I can recall ). Can't wait for them to cure & go thru the new lubrisizer.

[clodhopper]

Funny how you fellas all have pet names for your Whelens.
I really like the IMR 4064 with RCBS 200 grain Flat points.
I call my rifle The Whelenator, seems like what ever I shoot with it becomes alienated from their herd.
The other deer or elk take off over the hill or in the brush, while the alienated one just lays down to take it easy.

[Blammer]

Ok, Ready, Set, GO!

Identify them.

[Blammer]

from L to R
Saeco 351
RCBS 35 200
JTL 200gr
I dunno
358315
358318
358009 'flat point' my design
358009
200gr SWC
200gr SWC HP
360 180 NEI

[Blammer]

I'm missing about 6.

I need to get a new picture put together.

[35 shooter]

Blammer i do believe you have any hunting situation well covered. That's quite a "herd"!

[TXGunNut]

Well, I got three of them right, lol.
Clodhopper, I named Ol' Ugly before I knew much of anything about the 35 Whelen. She was a Winchester M670 30-06 in a junk composite stock but she thought she was a target rifle. She's not a 30-06 (or ugly) anymore but the name stuck. I named her sister "Even Uglier" when I bought her a year or so ago. I restocked her, cleaned her up and call her "Annie" these days.

[TXGunNut]

Took Ol' Ugly to the range today, didn't get to try any IMR 4350 loads but I did re-fire the H4350 to good effect-sort of. Wind was swirling and gusting 10-20 mph from R-L so I had a group about 3" wide and 1.25" tall. Temps were climbing into the 90's so I made a mark in the "win" column and cased up Ol' Ugly to try again another day.
Hope the IMR 4350 works as well, scored another 2 #'s of it today.

[35 shooter]

That sounds promising. Which load held up the best?

[TXGunNut]

I was re-testing the 52.5 gr H4350 from last trip, substituted RP 9 1/2 for the Fed GMM. Now I remember why the RP was my standard LR primer for so many years.

[35 shooter]

My brother was using that same primer with the 52 gr. imr4350 load yesterday that shot so well for him. I'm still using my old cci 200 primers, maybe i need to give the remington's a try. Sounds like i need to go back and try 52 gr. again too, i might have missed something there, or maybe it just didn't like the cci primer with that charge. There are just so many variables that can affect a load till it boggles the mind sometimes!

[TXGunNut]

I don't pretend to understand why some rifle primers and powders play well together while others don't. I think overall the Fed GMM is the better primer but sometimes the CCI or RP (or even Wolf) will do better. I do know GMM primers haven't been on the shelves I've checked for a long time.

[TXGunNut]

Got to use my new 4500 on those 360318's today, should be interesting. RCBS 50/50 wasn't what I was expecting, think I need to go get educated a bit more on lubes.

[35 shooter]

Tx. what do you think about a start load with the 358009 using imr 4350? I started with 50 gr. with the 200 gr. boolit. I was thinking 48 gr with the 280 gr. for a start point. The only book data i've found is an old hornady manual that lists 55.6 gr.for a start load with a 250 gr. jacketed. If i remember right that was for 2200 fps.

Glad you've got the 360318s in the works. Hope they shoot as good as they look.

[TXGunNut]

Tx. what do you think about a start load with the 358009 using imr 4350? I started with 50 gr. with the 200 gr. boolit. I was thinking 48 gr with the 280 gr. for a start point. The only book data i've found is an old hornady manual that lists 55.6 gr.for a start load with a 250 gr. jacketed. If i remember right that was for 2200 fps.

Glad you've got the 360318s in the works. Hope they shoot as good as they look.

Honestly can't say, been contemplating a starting load for the 360318 myself. Can't argue with your starting point for the 358009, sounds prudent. I'm thinking 50 grs for the 360318's starting load, suspect I'll wind up around 51-52.

[TXGunNut]

Been doing a lot of thinking (and reading) about our powder choices, 35 shooter, and have concluded that IMR and H 4350 are too slow for the 35 Whelen. That said, I loaded 50 grs IMR4350 under five of my freshly minted 360318's.

[Blammer]

LOL

you a funny man!

my whelen dotes on 4530

[TXGunNut]

LOL

you a funny man!

my whelen dotes on 4530

LOL. That was a bit tongue-in-cheek but I based that conclusion on a thorough perusing of my loading manuals and a new Western Powder reloading guide. I'll see what Ol' Ugly has to say on the subject Sat AM.