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Thread: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --

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    Slug Master in Remembrance
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    More about he guys that did the accurate 416 HE, they did a
    416 HE that has an 8" longer 42 inch K&P barrel..

    Used longer barrel and the same load with 475 gr bullet, as used
    in the first gun and and gained about 200 fps with good accuracy,.
    3065 fps. Tested 2 groups of 3 and less than 1/2 min moa.

    And loads they used are not the highest speed loads
    the cartridge is capable of....Here is picture.......Ed....



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    Away for a time, sickness..
    Here is print with chamber reamer specs for the
    416 HSM chamber..There are 3 base sizes we have,
    depending on actions used. Got reamers for all 3..
    Got cases for all of them..
    Our cases are public domain, so that is why I post
    info and specs. To help guys do their own setups.
    Manson makes reamers I use,,, Ed.

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    Here is reamer print with chamber reamer specs for
    the 460 HSM chamber .Couple guys getting set
    to do 38-40 inch heavy 458 target barrels...Ed....

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    With 40 inch barrel 416 HSM ,475 gr, get 3650, over 13,000 ft lbs muzzle energy.
    Got guys getting set to have 38-40 inch 458 barrels made for 460 HSM.Ed..

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    More info on this gun, we did it for testing 416 HSM with a rebated rim,
    to check in intermediate size actions, with the longer, stronger, bolt lugs, Ed..

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    Here is experimental action for 416 HSM in a heavy
    stock....We lengthened port a little, set bolt stop back ,
    opened bolt face fit the 416 HSM rebated rim. Ed.

    Here is comparison of Montana PH to Pierce action we
    modified to use for rebated rim 416 HSM testing..Ed.

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    416 & 460 HE AND 416 & 460 HSM .LONG RANGE AND HUNTING
    Can be set up in Pierce X10 ACTION for the 416 & 460 HE
    AND X20 action for the 416 & 460 HSM , Can get those
    if guys need one...Ed

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    Here is picture of my 416 HSM test gun,... It is a big falling block we had
    as a 8 bore years ago. Has a 34 inch , 1 5/8 "diameter, 1 to 10 twist barrel. .. Ed.


    http://www.gunownerstv.com/hsmfb.jpg

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    Followed this on the Alaskan forum. Very interesting.

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    Have you even played with the 585HE necked down to take a 50 BMG projectile... Regretfully my state has decided to be morons and will not allow anything based on a BMG case.... So i have a few barrels to pull on rifles... I have 50 BMG bullet Swage dies, Jacket draw dies etc.. Just looking for a new case to play with. its either yours or necking up 408 Cheytac

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    Mine is longer, holds more powder than cheytac, and we have made

    416 HE, 460HE, and could easily do 510 HE. Bertram has got barrels of the brass,,...ED

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check