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    More help needed

    I need to find some folks with more brain power than I have.

    My town passed a new AWB Tuesday and no resident even knew the village was considering such a move.

    I am working with the top person in the state to try and stop their actions. I have just received this message.

    "Check to see if they violated village by-laws about giving the public notice of an ordinance like this."

    I do not have a clue how to do this.

    Yes I really am a puter ignoramis.
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    Good evening
    See if you can russle up some e -mail contacts of these "fine leaders".
    Are these elected officials ? How difficult is a petition to Re/call ?
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    Here's some links B.B.W:

    From this website:

    http://www.sec.state.ma.us/cis/cistwn/twnidx.htm

    "Where do I get my town’s by-laws?

    Call your town hall and ask the clerk’s office.

    Where do I get my town’s charter?

    Ask the clerk’s office or check your town’s website."

    More sites:

    http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-byl...#didyouknowout

    http://biztaxlaw.about.com/od/statea...ordinances.htm
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    If they have a meeting to pass that new ordance, you need to get word out and have that meeting packed to voice your objections to any new AWB ordance in hopes they fear being voted out next election time. It is easier to stop it now, then to try to repeal it after they pass it.
    Then at the next city election, get a grass roots movement to replace any of the city fathers that bought the AWB up and vote in someone else.

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    Thanks for your help folks.

    Now the powers at Illinoiscarry are reviewing village by laws AND the boilerplated Bloomberg AWB papers.
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    Forgive my ignorance--- What is an AWB ord.??



    Edit Thanks guys was just brain cramped at the abrev.s used here at times.
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    Last edited by leeggen; 07-12-2013 at 11:39 PM.

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    Are you sure that the law was "passed"? Is the town incorporated? Usually a bill needs to be read two or three times along with public comments before the city council votes on the bill. I am sure the city charter spells out how a bill is passed and becomes law. The minutes of town council meetings should be available to the public.
    If it was a home owners association it could be different.

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    Assault Weapons Ban. A law prohibiting Assault Weapons ( by a definition) is some form or fashion.

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    AWB is Bloombergs favorite assault weapons ban. All 5 pages of it.

    With the help of a member of Illinoiscarry we copied the village bylaws and the bill that was passed.

    The complete thing is now in the hands of folks with way more knowledge and power than I will ever have.

    Yes the folks that wrote the law.
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    Good luck Bill. I hope it goes well.
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    i think it is time to retire ALL of our village officials.
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    Bill...

    It may also be possible to go after your village board for violation of the Illinois Open Meetings Act. Under the act, ALL meetings of public officials where public business is to be discussed or voted upon must be announced, by publication, 48 hours (I think?) in advance and an agenda outline published for public review at the same time. This applies to ALL public bodies...elected or appointed...with the authority to spend public money.

    Our local Head Librarian just resigned (reportedly just before a vote to fire her was to be taken) over a meeting of the public library board that was held after closing time of the library...doors were locked at 9 PM denying public access to the meeting which was NOT announced in advance.

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    Hey Bill, take that mule to town with a sign hanging on his rear parts saying: raise tail to see our city officals!!
    CD in TN

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    The ONE person I would NOT want to get mad is the lady that has personally lead us thru all of this fight.

    Molly B was more than ticked about this move.

    She and her friends are reviewing just what our options are (she has all of the paperwork now) both locally and thru the state.

    I would rather face 8 lions in a locked cage than have to face her when she is mad.
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    CD in TN

    Dang nab t. Nou ya dun id. Iffin ther b 1 thing Girty hats iz b in kalld a he. She jist lefd here heddin fer ur plaz wit fire n her eyz.

    Kraschenbirn I am sure that Molly and crew will be looking at everything both state,county and village wide. Molly and her friends (plenty lawyers AND big name politicians) will do the big work and I will be asking our members at ILLINOISCASTERS for help at what ever meeting Molly says.
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    I thought that was addressed in your new carry law that was passed. They were encouraged to pass the AWB before the new carry law was passed. But the new carry law voided all AWB. Or am I having a CRS moment?

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    IANAL but I thought only Home rule communities were permitted 10 days AFTER the law was passed to add AWB to their community rules.

    That is why I went to another community that night to help defeat their AWB. Yes they are H R. My village is only incorporated.

    From reports there were only 20 folks at our meeting. The 20 of us could just as easily have ben in town that night if anyone had been made aware of the villages move.

    Yes If Molly says MARCH I am going to call All of the troops to pack the hall with standing room only and everyone wearing either IGOLD or N R A stuff.
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    Bill any City Council that sneaks in a vote on such an issue NEEDS to be recalled or voted out of office at the next election. The Council knew how people would react if they knew such a law was being considered and they hid it. Its not my town and its not my state but I would have no dealings with any councilman or mayor that had anything to do with passing this law, EVER.!

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    I appoligize to you and Girty. Kinda hard to distingush gender by her pic.
    Hope all gets straighten out, we had a couple of sneeks to pass some bs laws in our county. Not pertaining to gun laws, just taxes. Disn't take long for the people to get them out of office and the laws were removed.
    Good luck,
    CD in TN.

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    Just lead girtie around town with a sign that claims the politicians she leaves behind will be shoveled up sometime, at a later date, maybe.

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