Another pitbull attack

[tomme boy]

Two days ago, a man in my town was attacked by two pit bulls when he was walking downt the sidewalk. He is in critical condition. He was rushed to the ER then he was Lifeflighted to Iowa City trauma center.

The neighbors of the man heard someone screaming for help. The woman who was a reg. nurse looked out the door and seen the man being attacked by the dogs. She yelled for her husband and he tried to go out after the dogs with a bat. They turned on him and he ran back into the house. They had to wait and watch the dogs biting and pulling him around their front yard for about 5 minutes before Police showed up. They shot one dog right there dead. The other dog was shot but ran off. They still have not found that dog. They know the owners of the dogs. And have not done anything yet.

This is what happens when people DON'T own GUNS. I would have walked right out and killed both of them right there. This just pisses me off. The mentality of wait for the police to save you.

http://clintonherald.com/local/x1952.../?state=taberU

[jmort]

Pit bulls should be banned. Owners typically have no insurance and are ghetto/trailer trash with no regard for the consequences of not properly caring for their dogs. Yes there are exceptions. 5% of dogs are pit bulls and 65% of all dog related fatalities are caused by pit bulls.

[shredder]

Yup, for those dogs, shoot em dead. Just so you know, I am a kind and loving dog owner who has no time for pseudo trainers that encourage or allow agression in thier dogs without regard to the consequences of thier actions.

[felix]

The dangerous pit bull dogs are those that have been chained up all day without human company. They will get even. I have never seen a more affectionate dog than pit bulls. They need to have a family to love. They are not a one-member family dog, but family dogs in most situations. I have had two of them for 18 years in totum. ... felix

[shooterg]

The dog Petey in the old Little Rascal series would be called a "pit bull" today and I've seen a lot like him, wouldn't hardly lick a lollipop. Lot of terrier breeds are generically called "pit bulls" today. Any dog can be raised mean - in cases like above, justice would include the owners being shot too - or at least penned up with their own dogs after they hadn't been fed in a week.

[tomme boy]

That dog in the little rascals was an American bull dog. Not the same at all. Seems a lot of the less fortunate are the ones here that seem to have them. And I have met a few of these pit bulls that were the biggest babies I have seen. As with , their surroundings hugely dictate how they turn out.

[JeffinNZ]

Yup, for those dogs, shoot em dead. Just so you know, I am a kind and loving dog owner who has no time for pseudo trainers that encourage or allow agression in thier dogs without regard to the consequences of thier actions.

Don't shoot the dogs. Shoot the owners. We have the same problem here.

[runfiverun]

I remember when it was German Shepherds that were the bad guy's then it was Dobermans, after that it was the Rottweiler.
felix's words are spot on.
I have 2-3 'pit's' visit the house quite frequently.
my lab keeps them inline easily, she takes no acting up in her territory.

just a few minutes ago I got home from visiting a home with 2 American bull terriors, one sat/laid next to me most of the time I was there, I had never met her before.
the other one I know fairly well and I worked on teaching her to sit up on command during the fire works show.

[uscra112]

Yupper - agree with Felix. I've also known pit bulls that were complete pussycats, because they were loved and well treated at all times.

Sadly the pit bull had become the dog of choice for people who want surrogates for their own nasty, violent, hostile, sociopathic natures.

So yeah, after you've shot the dog, shoot the owner. If there's one thing I hate more than another, it's people who abuse dogs. Removal from the gene pool is the least we can do.

[waksupi]

It used to be dobermans, now it's pits. I'm sure it will turn back to German Shepards before too long. If he went into the Iowa City emergency room, it is likely my younger brother worked on him.

[Stephen Cohen]

In this country Pit bulls are banned, but it has not stopped adults or children from being torn apart. While all firearms must be locked in a safe with bolts removed and stored separately, I keep two oo buck handy for just such emergency. The couple next door don't own guns and openly state they feel safer that I down them.

[jmort]

"I'm sure it will turn back to German Shepards before too long."

No, for sure it will not "turn back."
http://www.dogsbite.org/

[longranger]

Those sweet Pit Bulls are sweet until their not, as many "Sweet Pit Bulls" have bitten kids and others as the trailer trash/Michael Vick dogs.They are inherently bred to do what they do. It's like playing with a loaded gun eventually it may or may not go off.

[fryboy]

does anyone know how many of vick's dogs had to be euthanized ? the number may surprise you ...facts folks facts ( btw ? it was only one of all vick's dogs )
fact - pete the pup ( all 7 of him/her) were american staffordshire terriers aka american pit bulls , the difference between the american and the english ? the american is a bit bigger ( that ought to make the anti pit bull people quake a lil more and rightfully so )

fact - dogbite.org is a anti pit bull site just as the brady campaign is a anti gun site

fact - poodles bite more people than pit bulls , however with the sheer number of the group of dogs labled as pit bulls ( including most who arent ) that number does increase ( much as the anti gunners use twisted stats to arrive and promote their logic

i've seen it too many times on the news "PIT BULL ATTACK" complete with a picture of a pit bull only to later find it wasnt a pit bull at all ( there's a narrative here anyone besides me catch it ? )

fact - pit bulls werent originally bred for fighting dogs ( that's b.s. ) they were bred for baiting bulls ,hence the bull aspect of their name

fact - for the longest time they were called the nanny dogs , if you dont know why you should educate yourself ( as opposed to being willfully ignorant )

fact - you act like prey you're prolly going to become prey , breed doesnt matter in this at all , and yeah they'll smell and identify your fear before you even ( if you ever do ) identify it

fact - for the longest time they were bred to show no human aggression , yup that's right - NONE , such dogs were killed , this is why they are rarely used for true serious watch dogs

but what do i know ...dont let the facts stand in your way ( after all the anti-gunners dont ..) one has to train/teach a pit to be mean to humans ,ie; like most have said it's the owners who should be shot ( IMHO it should also be the media and others who try to instill the "sensationalism" and anti-pit victim mentality in other people )

all that aside i hope the guy makes a speedy recovery and umm look at my avatar foto - yeah a big bad pit that has some of you quivering in fear

[Tazman1602]

BULLPUCKY! <personal insult deleted> It's not the dogs fault -- the OWNERS should either be shot or put in jail. It's people like this that got Wolf hybrids banned in Michigan.

ANY animal can be mean, even a Chihuahua if the owners teach it to be mean.

I own Pits, Rottweillers and in the past have owned wolf hybrids and do you know why they attacked when they did? Because I trained them to. I also trained them to PROTECT little children and other small animals. Example: Ten years ago when my beloved Rotty "Ginger" was still alive I heard the neighbors child screaming in their yard. The neighbor a half a mile down had the meanest, nastiest German Shepards I've ever met -- that's how they were raised. I reached for my shotgun and out of the corner of my eye I saw a streak of black.

That streak of black was Ginger bolting off my front porch at a full run -- at first I thought she was going to attack child and was ready to shot her when I saw her leap OVER the child and hit both of those German Shepards at a full run bowling them over. One she caught by the neck and threw about ten feet. She then went back to the child and kept herself between the child and the other dogs -- who never even came close to her again.

That dog KNEW her job was to protect those that were weaker than her and she did a good job at it. She got steak for dinner that night, courtesy of the neighbors when they heard the story.

My wolf? He wasn't so nice. About five years later a similar thing occurred and we had to pull her off the dog with a rope. She then licked the children all over to make sure they were not hurt at all.

IT AIN'T THE ANIMAL. IT'S THE OWNER. PERIOD.

Just as a footnote? If I had my way, people who make dogs fight would be shot on sight. Sorry for the rant but that is the way I feel about this subject.

Art

Pit bulls should be banned. Owners typically have no insurance and are ghetto/trailer trash with no regard for the consequences of not properly caring for their dogs. Yes there are exceptions. 5% of dogs are pit bulls and 65% of all dog related fatalities are caused by pit bulls.

[10-x]

Adopt a Greyhound, you will not be sorry. SIL has 3 "pits", they will lick you to death, hold squeaky toys in their mouth's wanting to play. Remember, God created animals for man to have dominion over them. Trash like vick et al should be put away. Oh, and there are the idiots that fight roosters...........

[Freightman]

BULLPUCKY! <personal insult deleted> It's not the dogs fault -- the OWNERS should either be shot or put in jail. It's people like this that got Wolf hybrids banned in Michigan.

ANY animal can be mean, even a Chihuahua if the owners teach it to be mean.

I own Pits, Rottweillers and in the past have owned wolf hybrids and do you know why they attacked when they did? Because I trained them to. I also trained them to PROTECT little children and other small animals. Example: Ten years ago when my beloved Rotty "Ginger" was still alive I heard the neighbors child screaming in their yard. The neighbor a half a mile down had the meanest, nastiest German Shepards I've ever met -- that's how they were raised. I reached for my shotgun and out of the corner of my eye I saw a streak of black.

That streak of black was Ginger bolting off my front porch at a full run -- at first I thought she was going to attack child and was ready to shot her when I saw her leap OVER the child and hit both of those German Shepards at a full run bowling them over. One she caught by the neck and threw about ten feet. She then went back to the child and kept herself between the child and the other dogs -- who never even came close to her again.

That dog KNEW her job was to protect those that were weaker than her and she did a good job at it. She got steak for dinner that night, courtesy of the neighbors when they heard the story.

My wolf? He wasn't so nice. About five years later a similar thing occurred and we had to pull her off the dog with a rope. She then licked the children all over to make sure they were not hurt at all.

IT AIN'T THE ANIMAL. IT'S THE OWNER. PERIOD.

Just as a footnote? If I had my way, people who make dogs fight would be shot on sight. Sorry for the rant but that is the way I feel about this subject.

Art

Truer words were never spoken, I grew up with a Pit Boston terrier mix never bit anyone except the Shepard that jumped a six foot fence (his territory), people make dogs mean, thus mean people are the blame.

[Ajax]

Pit bulls and Bulldogs were used by the settlers for 2 reasons one they were loyal to the family till death and the other they were a working dog. The people who think pit bulls are evil have never owned one. My baby who has passed molly girl. would lick you to death. My father in law thought ll pit bulls were evil till he met molly girl and he cried like a baby when she passed. Pit bulls and bulldogs are very territorial but that is due to protecting their family. I will never own a dog other than bull breeds due to the fact that when i am not home they will protect my family.

Andy

[shredder]

Don't shoot the dogs. Shoot the owners. We have the same problem here.

You are right on the money here. However, in my opinion, once the dogs have attacked someone like this instance, it is unlikely that the average dog owner will ever get complete control of them. There are highly specialized places that can adopt dogs like this but they are rare.

If I saw the attack happening and had a shot, as much as it pains me, I would take it. The need to protect human life is greater. The owners need to be dealt with, but not with the gun. There are laws for people and they should be charged and prosecuted to the full extent for thier negligance.

[Ithaca Gunner]

Don't shoot the dogs. Shoot the owners. We have the same problem here.

I'm in total agreement. The cops have done nothing to the owners of the dogs? Even though they know who they are? I would be willing to bet that any charges filed against the owners would lead to multiple felony's while serving about any warrant on the property. In fairness to the cops, maybe they're consulting with the D.A.'s office first to get multiple warrents, I hope this is the case.