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    Ah... Wombat Soup.
    To cook this, you place one large Wombat in the pot. Add 3 good sized rocks and carrots and any other ingredients you wish. cook for 6 hours on a medium flame.
    After 6 hours throw out the wombat and eat the rocks. Cause Wombats are tough and taste like Schit and the rocks will be softer than the Wombat.
    Hooroo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HI-TEK View Post
    According to OMJ Gunworks, they are "Snake oil Green" and "Monkey snot mold lube"... lol...

    Ausglock has "Zombie green", and "dogdick red" "desert sand camouflage "...lol.... What next???.....

    Sneaky Ausglock, has so many colours, that his "mad scientist" set up is mindblowing freaky colours, and I am sure he stands around at night with special lighting to reflect all colours around his lab, lol
    But Joe, that was said with "love" lol lol lol

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    Having some issues with the lee sizing die. The sizing die is taking some of the coating off of the bullet, the main bullets I am having are with my 476 and my 452 sizers. On some of the larger diameter bullets of the mix there is a fair amount of pure lead exposed/stripped away(entire side at times)
    Tempted to coat once, size, than coat two more times. Might be more hassle than what it is worth though.
    Have been doing light coats of 5-1-7

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    The only Time I have had problems with lee sizer dies taking off the coating, was when I was using 8BHN alloy. Hardened it up to 10 and above and no problems since.
    Is the coating fully baked (will not wipe off)?
    Hooroo.
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    They are straight wheel weights so a bhn of about 12ish.
    Passes smash and acetone wipe tests.
    Just frustrated with this, my 358 sizing has no issues nor does my 430, just the larger bullets

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    I do 9mm, 357mag,40, 44 and 45 and have no sizing issues with any of them.
    Have you checked out the inside of the 45 sizer?
    no burs or anything?
    Hooroo.
    Regards, Trevor.
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    goblism, try using case lube on the boolits when sizing. I found out that if there is alot of resistance in the press handle when resizing it may remove some of the coating. Also have had the bottom punch push into the base of the boolit some. When lubed this does not happen.
    I had one boolit I had to drill a hole thru the center to get it out of the sizing die. This was a soft 8 BHN.
    I was reading an old Handloader bullet casting annual and saw the article on using Super grex shotgun filler in cartridges under boolits. Said it even removed leading so I may try to find some and try it in the high velocity rifle loads to see if it removes the fouling in the bore.
    Dave Scovill was the author and he said longer strings of fire were possible with the filler.
    If I can't find the Grex I may try Puff-Lon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goblism View Post
    They are straight wheel weights so a bhn of about 12ish.
    Passes smash and acetone wipe tests.
    Just frustrated with this, my 358 sizing has no issues nor does my 430, just the larger bullets
    If you contact Donnie, and have a talk.
    He can supply you a lube that can be applied to coated projectiles, Hi-Tek-Lube 5000, that will greatly help with sizing larger diameter projectiles.
    Also, he can supply a product called Extreme catalyst, and you can use it with coatings, instead of normal catalyst, on large diameter projectiles and harder alloys, to allow easy sizing after coating is complete.
    These can reduce drag by up to 50%.
    It will certainly help with harder alloys and larger projectile size reductions.
    These two are non contaminating and will not interfere with coating processes.
    Hope this helps

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    get the Iube I Stripped coating before using the lube... Think it was me ramming projies through the sizer.

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    I find the 9mm bullets harder to size than the 45 bullets.
    Even sizing .359 down to .356 is easy. but a lot easier with the 5000 lube.
    Hooroo.
    Regards, Trevor.
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    What happened to the last post i made to day, There is a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunoil View Post
    What happened to the last post i made to day, There is a problem.
    I had similar problems.
    What I had learnt, that once you start a message, you cannot leave it and do something else, as message just wipes out and disappears.
    Had to start again with new message and complete it without stopping and post it

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    no , hi tek, worst than that bjorn post was up there too and bullets i coated for him. He gave ramge report. 3 or 4 post are missing and other member answered him too. And i wrote nother post about buying hi tek mold lube from bayou.

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    Yep. they were there. now they are gone.
    Very strange.
    Maybe a Moderator can shed some light on it?
    Hooroo.
    Regards, Trevor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunoil View Post
    no , hi tek, worst than that bjorn post was up there too and bullets i coated for him. He gave ramge report. 3 or 4 post are missing and other member answered him too. And i wrote nother post about buying hi tek mold lube from bayou.

    Most strange.
    Why would any one delete results of a shoot???
    Can bjorn re-post the results and others comments?
    I must have missed it as I can recall seeing such blogs.
    I am very interested in results and comments.

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    I think he meant btroj, or bjorn, as I did post some test results. I started a new thread on rifle test with Hi-Tek coating.

    I got decent accuracy in my rifle at 1750 fps but it was horrible at 2100 fps. Alloy wasn't up to the task. One issue with this coating is the annealing of heat treat during the curing of the coating.

    An a lower temp for more time be used? What happens if we use 200 F for 20 to 30 minutes?

    Can we heat to 350 for 20 minutes, or longer, and then water drop them?

    Brad

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    Popper what about adding some sulfur to your mix if you haven't already. I have no idea if the added grain refiner would be any help since you have AS in there already or not.
    Last edited by Thompsoncustom; 09-14-2013 at 12:07 PM.

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    From what I was reading CU water dropped bullets resulted in a lower hardness than S water dropped.

    http://www.lasc.us/WiljenArsenic.htm

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    But Cu seems to let a higher Sb alloy retain some toughness. Seems the Cu mitigates the normal brittleness that Sb causes.

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    btroj, thats wierd the post disappeared! Yours,mine,and another.

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