I thought all this CCW was madated by court and a deadline set. How can the gov veto it if the court says you gotta pass it or else????
Jack
I thought all this CCW was madated by court and a deadline set. How can the gov veto it if the court says you gotta pass it or else????
Jack
"'Necesity' is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of Tyrants: it is the creed of slaves."
William Pitt, 1783
"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we faulter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln.
He can veto it. Then we go to constitutional carry. They have the option of regulating carry. Not a mandate to have a law.
Basically, the court said carry is going to happen. If you want a law June 9th is the date that the old ban on carry ends and you should have a law in place. Otherwise it's constitutional carry. Something the gov doesn't want.
My Feedback thread:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?249515-prsman23
The court said that the restrictions on carry were unconstitutional and gave the state 180 days to come up with a REASONABLE CCW law or we would get CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY across the state.
Since Illinois has something stupid called home rule C C would have been a complete disaster Home rule would have allowed Crook county AND over 220 municipalities to pass any kind of gun legislation they wanted to as long as IT WAS MORE RESTRICTIVE than the state law.
Any settlement of over 25,000 can be a home rule if they vote for it. Use your imagination and see what kind of a mess we have as some places play CAN YOU TOP THIS with gun laws across the state.
A whole new set of laws will have to be negotiated and passed by the general assembly. In the mean time our governor has vowed that Illinois will NOT have any form of CCW. "I will VETO any such nonsense that shows up at my desk.
Can you imagine trying to keep the machine in Chit Kago happy + the rest of the state at the same time?
Yes these ARE interesting times we live in.
Things will get very interesting over the next 14 days.
Will we get everything we want
Show me even one state that did on their first try?
With ANY luck I will have to change my signature NEXT month.
WE WON. WE BEAT THE MACHINE. WE HAVE CCW NOW.
done.
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John 3: 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Even with CCW in AZ I still feel somewhat limited, although sure glad I can legally carry in certain areas like a park or bar that has firearms restriction signs
EVERYONE in Illinois needs to vote on this one.
http://capitolfax.co...of-the-day-1602
You guys hitting this poll on capitolfax?
Should all current and future home rule ordinances regarding guns be abolished?
PLEASE VOTE NOW
WE WON. WE BEAT THE MACHINE. WE HAVE CCW NOW.
http://capitolfax.co...of-the-day-1602
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Wellll then go here
http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index...42#entry492856
to first post and vote.
WE WON. WE BEAT THE MACHINE. WE HAVE CCW NOW.
LOYALTY ABOVE ALL ELSE, EXCEPT HONOR
"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading." -- Thomas Jefferson
"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
Theodore Roosevelt
NRA BENEFACTOR LIFE MEMBER
This: http://capitolfax.com/2013/05/29/que...f-the-day-1602 will get you directly there...
.. yes
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John 3: 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
And give it that fine crook county tradition.
Vote early and vote often.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. Abraham Lincoln
Dear brothers of Chicaginios, please don't drop that turd of a town on us. We here in Indiana have it pretty good for the most part.
I honestly feel bad for you guys when it comes to laws. I can ALMOST throw a rock from my back your to the finer part of your state (the rural southern part). I imagen the rest of the state aside from a few larger cities, are just as good a folks. When cops on this side of the river are afraid to cross over with a gun on, it's pretty bad.
I hope you get this squared away soon and get what you want fro
It.
Don
Just voted to abolish. Results so far are 80 to 20 for getting rid of it.
Good afternoon
Just received a notice from Senator Frerichs that the House and Senate have passed a bill and sent it to the Governor to sign or veto..
Mike in Peru
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"Come unto Me, all you who labor and are heavy burdened, and I will give you rest." Matthew 11:28
Male Guanaco out in dry lakebed at 10,800 feet south of Arequipa.
Here is the Chicago Tribune story:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/p...0,947405.story
Blacksmith
S. G. G. = Sons of the Greatest Generation. Too old to run, too proud to hide; we will stand our ground and take as many as we can with us!
Does anyone know if out of state permits are honored?
Bill
If it was easy, anybody could do it.
LOYALTY ABOVE ALL ELSE, EXCEPT HONOR
"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading." -- Thomas Jefferson
"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
Theodore Roosevelt
NRA BENEFACTOR LIFE MEMBER
IL house wont be back until October 12th!
Finally.. we can breathe easy.
Made it through this storm.
No assault weapons ban.
No magazine ban.
Bill sucks because
We didn't everything that we wanted, but we got Shall Issue carry with preemption of all handguns. Chicago handgun license, gone. Chicago handgun magazine ban, gone. Chicago handgun registration and registry, gone.
LOYALTY ABOVE ALL ELSE, EXCEPT HONOR
"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading." -- Thomas Jefferson
"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
Theodore Roosevelt
NRA BENEFACTOR LIFE MEMBER
For them to honor out of state permit Bill, literally they'd have to give the southern part of Il, the same amount of voting power as the stink hole up north has.
Or you can be like me, as my family all live across the river from me, and I just thumb my noses up to their laws.
I know it's the wrong thing to do, but I see what it's done to the part of the state I grew up in and it just irritates me to no end.
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