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Thread: Thinking About Guns

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    Boolit Master
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    Quote Originally Posted by Love Life View Post
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    A fellow starting out on a budget could do lots worse than to get a pair of Ruger 4-5/8" convertible single-action revolvers, one in .357/9mm, and the other in .45 Colt/ACP. That pair can use lots of different kinds of ammo.

    Then an H&R Handi Rifle with barrels in .357, .45 Colt, and a shotgun barrel, either 12-ga. or 20-ga. Again, to exploit common ammo.

    Then get a sturdy bolt-action, scoped .30 cal. "deer rifle" in whatever caliber is popular in your area. .30-'06, .308, makes no difference. As long as you can pick up brass for free at the DNR rifle range.

    Then get a battle rifle in the same caliber as your deer rifle and quit. Spend the rest of your money on other preps, like food, tools and supplies.

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    You can make your own black powder, but making primers for your cartridges could be a problem. Might have to go to a flintlock.

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    In thinking about it, I can store a LOT of primers in the space that would be occupied by the needed chemicals required to make my own black powder. Back powder is fine, I shoot it regularly in several guns, but for stockpiles, I prefer smokeless. You get a lot more power in a smaller volume of smokeless than you do with black powder. Also, to those planning to make their own during a crisis, the chain of supply is going to be broken down for the chemicals to make it the same as it will be for everything else. Unless you can mine your own chemicals, you'll be in the same boat as the rest of us. (charcoal being the only easily produced chemical component)

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    I guess what I'm saying is I find it more prudent to stockpile ahead of time. I'm a shooter, and I'll use it up anyhow. I just try to replace the stuff as I use it up. It also allows you to adapt to varying trends. By that I mean for example, 22LR has been in short supply for quite a while now. I have a reasonable supply on hand, but since I can't currently replace it at this time, I've been shooting other calibers, and using components that I CAN replace at the current time. I've also made changes in the powders I use for reloading, based on what's available currently. As the situation changes, adaptations should be made.

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    sulfer isn't hard to come by, just find yourself a volcanically active area like Mt St Helens, any hot springs, the entirety of yellowstone...
    Charcoal is easy enough to make yourself.
    Salt peter can be extracted from piss, and was for a very long time. People used to piss in jars and leave it on their doorstep to sell to the local blackpowder manufacturers.

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check