RotoMetals changes the rules????

[Sasquatch-1]

Duke, If you went to the gas station to buy 10 gallons of gas and they gave you 10 cans and told you they were suppose to be a gallon each and you end up with 9.25 gallons of gas that you payed the price for 10 gallons for, would you be happy?

[Screwbolts]

Gentleman,

I have lead for sale in the Sellin-swappin thread, this is . It is Bullet trap scrap, Cabine Tree tested at 11.5 reads .072 to ,076. No this isn't hard ball, Nor is it virgin lead. It is from droppings out the bottom of Gun Manufacturers bullet traps. Clean and available in 20 or 40 pound Boxes. I flux three times with bees wax and pine saw dust.

Ken

[dragon813gt]

On the average, you will be getting your money's worth. Some will be over on weight (to your advantage) and some will be under weight (to their advantage)... It will all equal out.

Who's guaranteeing that? And what if you only order once and you're short. This policy makes no sense for the customer. It makes complete sense for Rotometals. They will make more money per pound in the long run. It's the same thing with casinos. You win sometimes but the house wins in the long run.

['74 sharps]

Wish them well, and a nice bonus for the accountant who thought this up. Probably had many meetings, emails, Power Points, graphs, charts, projections etc. and still seemed like a great idea. I'll pass.

[imashooter2]

We are probably a very small part of their business with small orders being common and time spent weighing things out was an issue for them. Bullet casters are some of the most frugal folks on the planet. When Rotometals made the change, they had to know it was going to alienate some of us. They made the business decision and moved on. All of us should do the same. Make your price per pound calculations based off advertised minimums and buy or don't buy based off those results.

[Matt_G]

On the average, you will be getting your money's worth. Some will be over on weight (to your advantage) and some will be under weight (to their advantage)... It will all equal out.

Hope you are right.
This is exactly why I hope Kull and others will post what they actually received.
If it averages out, fine.
If not, and people are consistently short, that's not going to fly with many folks.

I do notice that with some things they are still selling per pound.
I've been wanting to get a pallet of pure lead for a while now but haven't found anyone in my area to split it with.
Just noticed I can order as little as 500 pounds now.
I may have to do that...

[mold maker]

I understand they aren't selling a dov. eggs or a quart of milk, but if their selling by the bar, so each should weigh very close the same, and the actual weight is what they should bill for. This might delay shipping time, but the customers would be much happier.
Lead and most other metals have been sold by the pound forever.
I suspecion a bean counter found they were shipping more than they were being paid for, and fixed the problem. In todays economy it's just the new normal.

[Kull]

Hope you are right.
This is exactly why I hope Kull and others will post what they actually received.
If it averages out, fine.
If not, and people are consistently short, that's not going to fly with many folks.

No worries there, I'll post when I get my stuff.

WW's are extinct here in California, Rotometals is only six hours south of me, their selection is good, and off the top their prices seem fair. So I'm game to buy from them a few times and see how things pan out.

[popper]

That is where I get my alloy. I have gotten slim ingot and cut ones to get the right weight. Labor is expensive so I see what they are doing. Most of the ingots I got were slightly under weight. Price accordingly.

[scb]

I'd rather be charged by the pound with the understanding that my 100 pound order might be ± 5 pounds. That way if I get 97 pounds I pay for 97 pounds not 100

[garym1a2]

If you cant hold better than +/- 10% tolerance on your bars you have no buisness selling them this way. I don't see whats hard about haveing some 1 lbers on hand.

RotoMetals alloy, 20/1, used to be $2.99 a pound, free shipping over $99.

But they just changed the rules and now it is only sold by the "bar" and it is $15.95 and the bars "will average 4.5-5.5 Pounds each". So it could be anywhere from $3.54 - $2.90 a pound.

Not sure I'm a fan of this new pricing method.....

What say you?

[Oreo]

Has anybody bothered to call Rotometals and ask them directly about their policy change? I see lots of talk but how about some first hand info?

[imashooter2]

Has anybody bothered to call Rotometals and ask them directly about their policy change? I see lots of talk but how about some first hand info?

We were all waiting for you to do it...

['74 sharps]

The deli in a grocery puts your order on a scale, and a bar code is printed showing the weight and price. This technology is not new.

[dragon813gt]

Has anybody bothered to call Rotometals and ask them directly about their policy change? I see lots of talk but how about some first hand info?

It's clearly posted on their site. And you add items to your cart by quantity. I was surprised by the posted reviews. There were quite a few regarding being shorted on weight. All were before the policy change.

[Taz700]

I've only ordered from them once, and I have to say I ordered 40 lbs and when on the scale it came to 42.5, so maybe I'm the only one that has more than I paid for, but the bullets cast great!!! I can't complain.

[alha]

Well, seeing as the difficulty I am currently having finding lead here, I will probably place an order with them. I did call them, and yes, it is by the ingot. One suggestion I did hear is that in the comments section of the order, to put that I am purchasing (let's say) 50lbs, not 10 ingots, and please do not short me. They do read those comments when filling orders. Also it may be a good idea to let them know when you are shorted, so they know how you feel. This is the impression I got when speaking to a very knowledgeable person there today, and heard that I certainly wasn't the first person who had called with concerns about this new policy. Remember, they are in business for their customer, and if they don't provide good cust service, their business will suffer. If their customers let them know they are not happy, things can change. Remember "New Coke"? As was said, if a deli can sell bologna by the lb in full tubes, they can pick 10 ingots, slide them over the scale, and charge accordingly. As he said, this isn't difficult, and I completely agree with him. He should know, he works there.

[runfiverun]

that would really not be cool if you were casting to sell custom boolits.
then you went and ordered 1,000 lbs of alloy [ingots] to make up boolits for a customer then only made 900 lbs for them.
that would be pretty hard to swallow those words.

[imashooter2]

I would be a bit surprised if the rules and pricing for commercial orders of tons at a time were not considerably different than what is posted for us little guys.

[Kull]

One suggestion I did hear is that in the comments section of the order, to put that I am purchasing (let's say) 50lbs, not 10 ingots, and please do not short me. They do read those comments when filling orders.

I hope that didn't come from someone at Rotometals. There's no reason anyone should have to specify that in their order. To suggest otherwise would also suggest that shorting of orders is intentional.