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Thread: So... How about a 31141 or 311041 6 hole?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpetman
    DavidR---Your 311644 will not shoot in your gun. Did you try casting bullets with it and see if they do?
    You add so much to this forum

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    RVpiolet76 ? You in?
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    That is about 9 so far.

    Still looking at an exact copy and be sure it drops from the mold freely at .312
    with a .300, or .301 nose.
    Last edited by David R; 08-25-2005 at 10:21 PM.

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    I am IN.

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    Bill, glad you are in, and you are not running this one, so you can just sit back and enjoy your mold hassle free. You have done many and much for this board.

    David

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    311041

    I just miced some 311041s I bought naked from Wayne Doudna. The alloy is his version of ww. Average weight = 174.0 grs. Average diameter = .3115".

    Count me in for the 6 cavity deal if the average diameter is .312" or less. Any more, I'm out.

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    Dave I'm glad to see you take it on, and I have not done much for very many, getting a nice mold for a good bullet is reward enough. The folks that founded this site and keep it running smoothly deserve thanks if anybody does.

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    lee 6 holer

    You can count me in a mold as well.

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    Wow, just when I thought this was a lost cause... Anxious to see the drawing, and will send money if a perfect original.

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    Please add me to the list.
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    Heres something for you to look at. Both versions came from Lyman molds. BDoyle has the newer version and he says it shoots very well. I've measured it and I would agree that it has very good dimensions.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 311041dual.JPG  

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    452.1 thank you I was going to ask you if you could post the drawing. On my browser, Its not too clear, I can't even read the text. But from what I gather, the "new version" is tapered instead of having a driving band in the front. Is that correct?

    Speaking for most of us here, we want .312 with wheelweights, and a .300 or .301 nose, I am not sure which. We would also like round (radiused is that a word?) grease grooves so the boolit drops from the mold.

    Looks like we are up to 12 so far.

    David

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    Thumbs down

    Most of us don't want an improved 311041. We want a 311041.

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    I will be shooting some of the ones I got from Willbird on Sunday. These are the older version. I do not have any of the newer version but I may be able to get some from fatnhappy if that is what his mold is.

    I think Lyman calls it a tapered ballseat on the 311644.

    Junior are you talking about the front band or radiused grease grooves or being .312 ?

    I like the ones I got from Willbird so far.

    I want to hear it all

    David

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    I want a bullet that looks like a 31141, BUT also drops from an aluminum 6 cavity easily.......maybe bullet design has nada to do with the mold material. I speak for only myself, I do not know what "most" want.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Willbird
    I want a bullet that looks like a 31141, BUT also drops from an aluminum 6 cavity easily.......maybe bullet design has nada to do with the mold material. I speak for only myself, I do not know what "most" want.


    Bill
    Post # 4 says bullets fall out of the 31141 mold ok, or words to that effect. An aluminum 6-C 31141 mold should work exactly the same.

    Junior says "Most of us don't want an improved 311041. We want a 311041."

    Like Junior, I want a 31141. It's time for a sticky VOTE.

    Bob

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    How To Use The Thumbnail Images We Have:

    Click On Image, It Will Change, Enlarge And Get Fuzzy, Wait And Move Your Mouse Around, The Save, Copy Stuff Will Come Up In The Upper Left. Now There Is An Icon In The Lower Right, Click On It And You Will Have Something You Can See And Read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David R
    Junior are you talking about the front band or radiused grease grooves or being .312 ?
    Porkchop Bob. Same question.


    452.1, I GOT IT!

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    Originally Posted by David R
    Junior are you talking about the front band or radiused grease grooves or being .312 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by David R
    Porkchop Bob. Same question.

    452.1, I GOT IT!
    I like the front band and the square lube grooves. Both of the CB shown have square lube grooves. I do not have a 31141 mold or a CB from this mold to measure to know how close the CB is to 0.312, but a WW CB in '31141' that measued 0.312 would be useful. Can always make it smaller. Not as easy to bump up.

    Bob

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    Old version specs:

    1. 0.311" to 0.312" drive bands behind crimp groove work well.
    Most 30-30 chambers won't accept a bullet much over
    0.3115" to 0.312".

    2. 0.300" nose and below do NOT work well because they
    won't touch much of anything, at least in my rifles.
    0.302" nose jam up in some rifles. Nose should be
    from 0.301" min. to 0.3015" max. 0.301" would be
    good to shoot for.

    3. The band in front of the crimp groove is critical if you want
    accuracy. 0.302" doesn't touch at all. 0.303" touches some.
    Maybe 0.304" would do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by porkchop bob
    Originally Posted by David R
    Junior are you talking about the front band or radiused grease grooves or being .312 ?
    I'm talking biggest as-cast diameter anywhere being .312" or less. Nose MUST also be .300" to .301".

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