Poor little No1 mk lll

[Okie73]

I picked this up Saturday as a parts gun. Apparently bubba got busy with a welder years ago.


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[rondog]

Ew. Hope it was cheap!

[3006guns]

What in the name of Hortense's bloomers was he trying to do? Weld a peep sight on the barrel? Guy never heard of heat treatment I guess.

If there's no other damage, just jerk that barrel and replace it. There should still be some surplus ones around.

[Okie73]

$30 was cheap enough for me to drag it home from the show.


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[Okie73]

What in the name of Hortense's bloomers was he trying to do? Weld a peep sight on the barrel? Guy never heard of heat treatment I guess.

If there's no other damage, just jerk that barrel and replace it. There should still be some surplus ones around.

The receiver, bolt and magazine are the only things that are salvageable.
Bubba messed up everything else.


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[Okie73]

Just love the copper penny touch on the front sight.


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[leebuilder]

Sweet jebuss, I just barfed in mouth.
What ever works I guess.

[Ballistics in Scotland]

$30 was cheap enough for me to drag it home from the show.


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Oh yes, especially if nobody saw you. You don't mention the bottom metal and trigger, which would be a help - and of course people who do this kind of thing, and stay out of the nearest booby-hatch, don't put a cash value on their time and trouble. This one wants to be a classic 1920s sporting rifle when it grows up.

It isn't even a peepsight (too far forward) but a notch (too far back, and without the adjustment favoured by people fussy about where the bullets go.) Welding on the receiver would be a big no-no, but I am sure the Lee-Enfield doesn't depend on heat treatment in the barrel. The reason the No1 got a rear sight on a mechanically fitting barrel band was that the long Lee-Enfield, in the sort of use intended for it, heated enough to melt the solder on the sight, and depended on a screw until it froze again on cooling. Further back it probably got even hotter. So this one is well and truly annealed anyway. I doubt if it has distorted the chamber, although if it had, a SAAMI chamber reamer might not be large enough in diameter to clear up the military chamber. I would either do a Cerrosafe chamber cast or fire it by the piece of string method, and see if one thing or the other came out easily. If the barrel is good enough to use, it could easily be a better one than many No4 rifles.

[nekshot]

444 in the future or maybe 30-40?

[John Allen]

It sucks but cheap enfield parts are always a good thing!

[bouncer50]

Its look like a demilled rifle that they drill thru the barrel. Back in the old days if they had bad headspace or bad chamber they demilled them and sold them really cheap as wall hanger or as a lamp. Good old days in the 50s or till early 60s. With cheap surplus rifles working one were really cheap to buy

[Ballistics in Scotland]

Its look like a demilled rifle that they drill thru the barrel. Back in the old days if they had bad headspace or bad chamber they demilled them and sold them really cheap as wall hanger or as a lamp. Good old days in the 50s or till early 60s. With cheap surplus rifles working one were really cheap to buy

That isn't impossible, but I don't think the intellectual in question was capable of welding up that hole undetectably. If he hasn't, and the chamber isn't distorted, it could probably be filed smooth.

One relegated to drill purpose only while in the British service would probably be stamped DP. most likely on top of the receiver ring. That could mean anything from dangerously impaired to a perfectly usable rifle, depending on how little they needed that model at the time. Those for schoolboy cadet corps could be deactivated, those for drilling soldiers not. You could hardly dare expect a better 1897 long rifle than I once saw with DP on it.

[bob208]

looking at the "weld" I don't think he got it hot enough to do any real damage to the barrel other then making it look bad. I have used more heat spot welding muzzle breaks on barrels.

[higgins]

If the magazine is in good shape, it's worth what you paid for the rifle.

[Bloodman14]

Just more proof that some people should not be allowed to have guns. That is a crying shame.

[Der Gebirgsjager]

Ahh..yet another museum quality example of indigenous rural American gunsmithing!

[Okie73]

If the magazine is in good shape, it's worth what you paid for the rifle.

That's what I thought.

[Okie73]

looking at the "weld" I don't think he got it hot enough to do any real damage to the barrel other then making it look bad. I have used more heat spot welding muzzle breaks on barrels.

The gentleman that I purchased it from said he never fired but was told that it had been in use.
I bought it as a project knowing that the barrel was highly suspect.

[Okie73]

Ballistics in Scotland

The trigger/guard are serviceable.

[Gtek]

If the bore and chamber are "usable", I would be tempted to grind off close, uncork barrel and find a lathe just cause I would have to see. I sure would not want to ride on or be around the farm implements he (Bubba) has fixed. It appears he was not one with the Mig or was welding outside of the window. Everybody knows the best stitch is between two and five adult beverages, front side your too stiff and backside too much swing!