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Thread: "They're just not for jacketed anymore."

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    Boolit Man
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    "They're just not for jacketed anymore."

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    Nice job!

    I also use my swaging dies on lead for reforming bullets. I usually take a lubed bullet and run it into the swaging die to get another shape, and the lube holds it's place during the swaging and the bullet doesn't have to be lubed again. I sometimes add a gas check during the swaging process, and that's worked like a charm.

    Hope this helps.

    Fred

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    YEP! Looks good and works good! Though I don't shoot much lead I do use the lead boolits to check the adjustments of my swage dies.

    Like fred said, swage an allready lubed bullet and the results are awesome. Just make sure not to attempt to swage to "hard" of alloy

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    I've also done a fair amount of reforming castings.

    My fav 38 special starts life as a 147 grain RN 9mm casting. I size and lube as 9mm first, and then swage in a CH Swage-O-Matic into 38 special semi wad cutter. Also have a set of tools for the swage-o-matic that does the same thing for 44 specials from .40 castings.

    All of mine, though, have lube in the lube groove before I swage. That lube is retained during the swage operation, and keeps the barrel from leading with any powder.


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    I was just thinking last night that it might well be easier to swage than cast to get cores for paper patching, and the dies to do so would be simpler and need fewer steps than a jacketed bullet. I particularly like the idea of a bleed die with a nose punch to give a one-operation bullet starting from a cast or cut core.

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    I swage nude boolits too but instead of canneluring them I knurl mine.

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    Add me to the list. I take a 225 grn 44 cal cast, run it through the LAS and then through the point forming die. I made some dead soft hollow points w/o jackets for a 2x4 shoot this past Saturday. Ended up coming in third and I was using a gate loading wheel gun. Other guys using mag fed guns. When you can make the bullet as soft as you want with a hollow point almost the size of the finished diameter of the bullet it makes big holes.

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    If you get some lube grooves you may be able to swage them into the middle of the boolit.

    but seriosly, that's pretty neat! I like the hollow base ones.

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    I have reformed many air cooled slugs in "m" dies with no problem! I do agree that you would not want to try and use the core bleed die with a alloy containing more SB than pure! But in my opinion if you are reforming a copper jacket in your die a lead slug ( as long as it is not glass hard ) will pose no thret of breakage. Just my .02 worth and YMMV?

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check