Cruelty and hunting article

[Norbrat]

Not sure if this is the right forum to post this (political?), but this is a well written, interesting read.

http://huntandshoot.com.au/articles/...garry-mallard/

[runfiverun]

it is about hunting, so....

[aa1911]

There was some PETA type nut jobs last year complaining about us salmon fishermen here in WA, do they realize that spawning salmon die anyway and float back out to sea? But heaven forbid a human catch a poor innocent salmon, so mean and cruel. Because bears and seals don't eat salmon alive or anything...

I would like to think my rifle round going through an animal's brain is less painful than a cougar shredding it to death or dying from disease.

have to laugh every time I drive through Olympia, WA there's a 'cruelty free' vegan restaurant behind the Fish Tale brewery. I've nicknamed these super hippie types as 'crunchies'

Thanks for the read!

[303Guy]

That is indeed a well written article. If only I knew what 'non-sequitur' means! Jokes aside, I do feel that too many hunters out there do not share the ethical belief that hopefully most of us uphold regarding the 'least painless' death aspect of hunting.

[DanWalker]

I used to use a rational, scientific based argument, based on the concept of "compensatory mortality" that I learned in college while obtaining my Biology degree. Now, I just tell them the get the hell away from me. I'm done wasting my time arguing with idiots. They have been raised to beleive that if a fact or reality upsets them, then it can't be true.

[Silvercreek Farmer]

We all strive to add meaning to our lives, unfortunatly some folks will pick up about any cause if they feel it gives them purpose in life. Most vegans have never witnessed a bushhog grinding up bunnies and ground nesting bird chicks when prepping a field to plant organic whatever. Death is part of life, I take it very seriously and strive to give anything I kill a humane death, but in the end, everything dies.

I recently took a hunter's safety course that recommended "hiding" your kill from public sight when transporting it home. I've always come from the belief that if you have to hide something it is probably wrong. I've never strapped a kill to the hood of my car, but wouldn't fault anyone for proudly displaying their trophy buck.

If you want to protect something, put a well managed season on it. Folks will be planting food plots!

[jhalcott]

It upsets ME when I see hunters hauling their deer around with the body cavity propped open. They don't seem to realize this exposes the meat to all manner of impurities! From road tar/dirt to vegan spit. Yes I've seen those bunny huggers spit on the carcass while the hunter is getting food or gas. One guy in Vermont tried to break the antlers off a deer in the parking lot. He hit the "offending car twice. Another guy called the police and boxed him in till they arrived.The worst thing is those "bumper hitch" things that are just a foot off the ground! Covering the game with a tarp isn't a BAD thing to my way of thinking.

[dragon813gt]

People are to disconnected from the environment. They don't understand the food chain. They definitely don't understand there are really only two choices to manage a population. Either we humans manage it. Or we release vast numbers of predators that will also see us as prey to manage the population. After some people are killed by those predators I'm betting they would want them removed once again. I don't understand how people choose to ignore nature and how it actually works.


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[fishhawk]

It's just that they don't realize that for any one to live some thing has to die, be it animal or plant. Plants are just another form of life on this planet whats more cruel killing a animal with a well place shot or taking some big machine out to a field and ripping off some other life forms reproductive organs to feed us? It's all life.....

[leftiye]

Vegans are from vega. Vegetarians don't eat meat. Liberals are mostly idiots.

[Finarfin]

If I were to design my diet around wanting to inflict the maximum amount of pain and suffering on the greatest number of animals possible, I would be vegan. If I wanted the opposite, I would eat beef.

What do you think happens to all those billions of bugs when their food source is removed?

[nanuk]

have to laugh every time I drive through Olympia, WA there's a 'cruelty free' vegan restaurant behind the Fish Tale brewery.

many studies show that plants do have rudimentary feelings

as such it is VERY cruel to just pull them up/rip them out/off of what ever they are growing in/on/under....

at least game can run away.....

but Carrots have a very slow gait

Vegans, and vegetarians who do not eat meat because it is cruel are HYPOCRITES!

and When ever I get the Chance, I TELL THEM SO!

[aa1911]

I like Ron White's bit on vegetarian crunchies and cattle.

"with cow flatulence in the ozone, what are YOU doing to protect the environment?"

"I'm eatin' the cows! but I'm only one man!"

[Flintlock Hokie]

Acts 10:11- 12 "He (Peter) saw heaven opened and something resembling a large sheet coming down, lowered to the ground by its four corners. In it were all the earth's four-legged animals and reptiles and the birds of the sky. A voice said to him, "Get up, Peter. Slaughter and eat."

[9.3X62AL]

The anti-hunters, the Earth First! zealots, and most of the tree-hugging screwballs cannot be reasoned with. Total waste of time. Same goes for many liberals--they are more about feelings than thought and reason, so you are speaking a foreign language to that lot.

[Larry D Barr]

Saw a wall plaque for sale the other day that said: "Vegetarian is a Native American word that means 'Bad Hunter'".

[Von Gruff]

And then there is " I love all of God's creatures--right next to the mashed potatoes".

[wolfe28]

Saw a wall plaque for sale the other day that said: "Vegetarian is a Native American word that means 'Bad Hunter'".

I have a magnet on my fridge that says that.

In other news, I've been meaning to get a pair of vegan shoes to go hunting in.

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[Boyscout]

Non-Sequitar is latin for non-sequential. In literary terms, it means someone has made an illogical jump in an argument or story line. Could be similar to a "red herring" which is a totally unrelated fact (or falsehood) meant to derail an argument when one wants to change the subject or shut down another. Criminals used to drop pieces of smoked herring (which can have a red colour) to throw off the pursuing hounds.

[Hamish]

I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to start eating weeds and twigs now.