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    Boolit Buddy David todd's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharps4590 View Post
    Just for grins and giggles....here's my "nice" Haenel/Aydt Schuetzen rifle.

    And one of my "not quite as nice" Haenel/Aydt but, just as good.
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    Very nice Haenels!
    I have one as well,, an 8.15X46R

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    scopes and bags are cool, but palm rests 'n' irons RULE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6string View Post
    Actually, there are four books, I think. One is mostly on target (free) pistols, but also has lots on miscellaneous cool stuff. Great stuff!
    Personally, the American rifles are largely derivative of their European counterparts. Lots of nice Schuetzen rifles came out of Switzerland. But, that can be confusing as the Swiss embraced the 300 meter free rifle match. Accordingly, they built "Schuetzen style" Martini action rifles in 7.5 x 55mm.
    Yes, the American schuetzen rifles were all influenced by Europeans who immigrated here, and brought their love of schuetzen shooting, and in some cases their rifles too. And some of the most famous custom gun makers building American schuetzen rifles were immigrants themselves. So they based their rebuilds of American rifle actions on what they already knew of guns back in their homelands.

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    David, is yours 8.15 also? Love the scope but don't want one on either of mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharps4590 View Post
    David, is yours 8.15 also? Love the scope but don't want one on either of mine.
    8.15X46R, stamped with an "N" as well, it shoots an unsized .314 bullet really well.
    I normally don't use the scope - just for load development , I have it set up with irons as well.
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    Have a look at Collectors Firearms Houston Tx

    search the website for Schuetzen

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul h View Post
    What appeals to me is the challenge of it, if you can shoot a heavy rifle offhand with a low velocity round well, it'll make you a better shot in every position with a rifle. If I was going to shoot off a bench, I'd go modern.
    ^^^^^THIS!^^^^^

    There is so much truth to that! When I am not shooting Schuetzen black powdah ‘cartridge’ rifles, I am shooting flintlocks, snaphaunce, wheellocks, matchlocks, arquebus and even hand gonnes from 1360.

    Every Winter I run/shoot the muzzleloading primitive biathlons, using a smoothbore flintlock, 60” barrel, 75-caliber, on wooden snowshoes. Those shoots have not been held for the past 2-years due to Covid, so I shot the military offhand match at my local club from January to March.

    I was shooting against Springfields, Garands, M14s or M1As … all offhand at 50 and 100-yards, and I was using an 1887 Italian Vetterli-Vitaly in rimmed 10.4x47R. Let’s just say that I placed 1st or 2nd at almost every match, and shot a 3” group offhand, witnessed at 100-yards. Our club sends about 30 shooters to the national every year, i.e., think Camp Perry or their new National range, and I would swap places with the Captain of our high-power rifle team at our club.

    So, yes … to answer your question, anyone who can shoot a BP cartridge rifle or an older BP firearm with accuracy, will excel at every other shooting sport! If this picture uploads, this is the left-handed 38-55 CPA Schuetzen that I built, as a Stevens model 52, using metal work from Paul & Gail Shuttleworth.

    Well … am sleeping on the boat tonight … not a good connection … will upload photos later …
    All my ‘toys that go BANG’ will shoot into ONE ragged hole ALL FREAKIN’ DAY LONG ... it's just those darn additional shots that tend to open up my groups!

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    Mighty purty rifles, old or new post. NICE!

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    Here's the goal!



    The old-timer in the photo was Philip E. Brooks (1879-1969). Mr. Brooks rubbed elbows with Harry Pope and other greats of the Schuetzen era. The target Mr. Brooks is holding is a facsimile (from the score sheet) of the record target fired by Doctor Hudson in (I think) 1901. The match was 100 shots off-hand at 200 yards on the German ring target. No sighters, no shooting jacket, cast lead bullets with no gas checks. And Hudson was using iron sights. I believe Doctor Hudson's score was 2301.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 451 Pete View Post
    Paul,
    One other thing that you may consider is going back in time even a bit further. The Schuetzen rifle that we think of in this country is the cartridge rifle. In Germany the history of the Schuetzen rifle and the Schuetzen Fest go's back into the muzzle loading era prior to the invention of the cartridge guns. I am a member of the National Muzzle Loading Rifle Association and at our home range in Friendship Indiana we hold several Schuetzen matchs at each of our two national shoots. Several years back I had a custom left handed Schuetzen rifle built in a muzzle loader. It has a .38 caliber bullet barrel from Green Mountain and shoots far better than my shooting ability. You may not want to go in this direction but it is another option you might want to consider. Cartridge or muzzle loader these rifles are a lot of fun and will challenge your shooting ability. Good luck and welcome aboard.

    Pete

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
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