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Thread: Recipes for "Mouse Fart" Loads in 30-06

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    Years ago I found lots of articles (original) of the Dane and Fin 'irregulars' and their training, loading. Used lots of light load wood projectiles for 'quiet' loads in the woods so no-one would hear them shooting. Powder and primers were scarce as was brass. Never sized, just punch primer and reload. Hid the rifles in the woods. Better training than just pointing a stick of wood. Became good at pilfering ammo from the enemy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alferd Packer View Post
    You can paper patch any of the 30 caliber and get them to fit the 8mm bore for shooting.
    I have a recovered paper patched boolit that still wears its paper jacket. The trick is to patch up to seat in an unsized neck. This should align the boolit with the throat and bore. Using the same load and patched boolits in another rifle, I got center of beer can accuracy at 50 yds. From my testing I would think that patching a 30 cal bullet or boolit up to fit the 8mm neck might well keep the patch on with cat sneeze loads. Maybe specifically 'design' the patch to stay on. Like glue between the laps or use a tougher paper. I used good old cheapo printer paper and that stayed on, even through the catch medium.
    Last edited by 303Guy; 09-18-2020 at 04:29 PM.
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    I don't think I'm hijacking here, I'm not up on forum etiquette. If I am, scold me and school me.
    I just bought a Handi-rifle in .30-06 and I was scouring my reload data for reduced loads.

    I shoot a lot at the local indoor range and was checking out the 125 gr. bullets for slow stuff.
    My question is, I don't have a lot of cast bullets left and they are all 170 gr. How slow can I go with the easy to get 125 gr. jacketed bullets? Is there any danger in pushing the jacketed bullets out the tube with light loads?
    It is fun to take my big bores (.30 and bigger) to the indoor range and just bang away. Most of it offhand standing just for the fun of it. I get to feel recoil and get a rifle dirty. My late wife always said the only reason I go to the range is so I can clean a rifle afterwards!
    I see almost every bullet maker has a 3031 load for their 125 gr. bullets. 3031 is one of my favorite powders.
    Have any of you tried going slow with jacketed bullets? Thanks, Mike
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    Check out this article about "The Load."

    https://www.hensleygibbs.com/edharri...20per%20second.

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    Thanks for that! I think I have some red dot!
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    Hey guys! I'm back!
    If I wanted to buy ready made cast boolits from the big stores, any suggestions on what brand and gr. weight for .30-06 you all like?
    I used to cast my own BP stuff, but I'm not sure I can even find my casting equipment any more so I was thinking of buying ready made cast.
    I have a handful of 170 gr. .30-30 flat nose I could use, they would be great for short range paper punching. But they were given to me and I have no idea whose they are.
    I intend to load .30-30 loads in my 06, so....what is out there I can pick up from say, Cabela's?
    Also, do I need to pack some sort of wad over that load in the big 06 case?
    Thanks in advance, Mike
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    Since this thread is about "mouse fart" loads I suggest any cast 32 caliber [.311 - .314] pistol bullet of 77 - 115 gr weight. If larger than .312 simply size in a .311 or .312 push through sizer. If unlubed lube them first. Then load over 3.2 gr of Bullseye.

    For 30-30 level loads in your '06 any 150 - 180 gr .30 caliber [.309 - .311] cast bullet will do (when buying commercial). There is a plethora of data available already for such cast bullet loads in the 30-06 (Lyman #3 and #4 CBH). For jacketed loads just use max 30-30 loads of powders such as 3031 and 4895 in your '06 as start loads and work up to what you want. In the '06 case the max 30-30 loads will give much less velocity and pressure than in the 30-30.
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    I have read this thread about one a year (winter reading) for the last several years

    I now have 2 new rifles and thinking about making my powder last and I do not need full powder loads to put holes in paper

    1st new rifle 444 marlin / 20 twist I have the lyman 429667 mold..... only 44 cal mold i have have some plated 240g i bought $90/500

    2nd new rifle 35 whelen have a bunch of 38 cal Pistol moulds and the 35xcb mould (360-230-fn-Au1)

    Thes rifles are so new I have not fired them... because of, Covid, work, doing house repairs, Snow drifts and not being able to buy ammo for them

    any Ideas for cat sneeze loads for these 2

    also a range day might be 100 plus rounds through 1 rifle .... can you imagine 100 full house 444 loads .... my shoulder

    one day 1 did 200 full cast 308 which was too much off a sand bag for my arthritic body

    Thanks

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    Hi Ford
    You can download Lyman's Cast Bullet Manual No. 3 for free. Just Google it.
    The manual is a must to help you get a handle on how cast bullets and the powders relate.
    The loads in the cast bullet manual for starting and maximum loads are a good guide for starting to shoot cast bullets.

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    ford sd you might try 30 grains of 4198 under a 200 grain cast bullet in the 35 whelen, ive been shooting 444 with a deep seated 432640 with 33-35 grains of 8208
    Last edited by farmbif; 06-10-2021 at 07:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ford SD View Post
    I have read this thread about one a year (winter reading) for the last several years

    I now have 2 new rifles and thinking about making my powder last and I do not need full powder loads to put holes in paper

    1st new rifle 444 marlin / 20 twist I have the lyman 429667 mold..... only 44 cal mold i have have some plated 240g i bought $90/500

    2nd new rifle 35 whelen have a bunch of 38 cal Pistol moulds and the 35xcb mould (360-230-fn-Au1)

    Thes rifles are so new I have not fired them... because of, Covid, work, doing house repairs, Snow drifts and not being able to buy ammo for them

    any Ideas for cat sneeze loads for these 2

    also a range day might be 100 plus rounds through 1 rifle .... can you imagine 100 full house 444 loads .... my shoulder

    one day 1 did 200 full cast 308 which was too much off a sand bag for my arthritic body

    Thanks
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    The answer is for you to download the cast bullet manual no3 Lyman.
    FREE just google it.
    loads for both your new rifles and the starting loads aren't catsneeze but they are very lite all using cast bullets.

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    I like printer paper.
    It resists tearing apart when wet and is tuff when dried out.
    Good for paper patch bullets.Imho.

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