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Thread: New bottom pour smelting pot!

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    New bottom pour smelting pot!

    This is my new bottom pour smelting pot that I made with the help of my brother and his welder.

    If filled to the brim, it will hold almost 4 gallons of molten lead (380 #).
    I generally run it from 1/2 to 2/3 full. It is smooth to operate and makes pouring ingots a pleasure. No more ladling for large batches! When not on the burner the spout acts as a fourth leg.

    I had to make some modifications to the turkey fryer to keep the spout hot and for extra support due to the increased weight. As there is almost no heat loss from the burner it is quick to heat, although I am making a lid for it to keep the heat in from the top.

    With my new vent hood with inline fan I am able to do my smelting in the shop, rain or shine.

    Thoughts and opinions please.

    Shad







    Pot under construction




    Legs and spout




    Burner with modifications




    Pot on the burner






    Inside the vent hood

    Please see next post "new bottom pour smelting pot #2" for additional pictures
    Last edited by shadowcaster; 03-04-2012 at 11:01 PM.
    I believe in gold, silver, & lead, and the rights of free honest men... You can keep the "CHANGE"!

    Shad

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    "new bottom pour smelting pot #2"





    my smelting/casting setup




    Putting the heat to it






    The bottom pour in action






    The final product
    I believe in gold, silver, & lead, and the rights of free honest men... You can keep the "CHANGE"!

    Shad

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    Wow that's a beauty!
    Do you just pull up to drain the lead?
    To lazy to chase arrows.
    Clodhopper

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    No.. it is threaded so that I have a good seal with no drips when it's closed,
    I believe in gold, silver, & lead, and the rights of free honest men... You can keep the "CHANGE"!

    Shad

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    I have a simlar set up with threaded valve on the bottom, the valve works like a ball valve and opens with 90 dregree turn.
    My pot is a 10" dutch oven. The lid keeps carbonized gasses and the tinsel fairy in, but must be removed to put a 'T' wrench on the stem to open the valve.
    It sure was a step up from the old 6 inch sauce pan hand poured into ingot moulds.
    Good luck finding enough lead to keep that set up busy.
    Last edited by clodhopper; 03-04-2012 at 11:51 PM. Reason: correction
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    The sides are 11" long angle iron with 3" channel x 6in long. I used 1/4" thick angle and channel because it was all I had. The brick molds are nice. The angle iron ones are just 6" long angle iron that make a 3&1/2 lb triangular stick, the channel iron makes a 5 pound brick.

    Something to think on:


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    Good luck finding enough lead to keep that set up busy.
    Yeah.. The hunt continues!
    I believe in gold, silver, & lead, and the rights of free honest men... You can keep the "CHANGE"!

    Shad

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    Canyon Ghost,
    The ingot moulds are nice,
    I have three triples made from 1 1/2" angle 7 1/2" long.
    Also a single made from 4" channel 7 1/2" long, the channel ingot weighs 10 pounds and it's to big for most pots. makes a great door stop though!
    To lazy to chase arrows.
    Clodhopper

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    clodhopper

    It's not to big for my new pot! Send your ingots my way.
    I believe in gold, silver, & lead, and the rights of free honest men... You can keep the "CHANGE"!

    Shad

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    What's gonna hold my door open?
    To lazy to chase arrows.
    Clodhopper

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    Great minds think alike!
    I built most of one today as well, that in many respects, could be the brother to yours.

    Show me what you did to keep the spout hot, I was wondering if I was going to
    have an issue there.

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    Shadowcaster that is one fine looking pot sir! I would hate to try to guess how much it weighs but you can tell at a glance that is one heavy duty piece of equipment. Well done.

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    what are the dimensions of your pan for the burner? how big of circle is it? thinking about making one now...lol...does the plug with threads screw in fine once the lead is melted?

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    Jim,
    I had to cut a 3 inch section out of the top horizontal piece as my spout sits just outside the burner. I then reinforced it with the 2 vertical pieces you see in the photo. Because the fire doesn't reach outside the square of the burner, this allows the flame to lick at the back side of the spout to keep it hot.
    I believe in gold, silver, & lead, and the rights of free honest men... You can keep the "CHANGE"!

    Shad

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    Nick,
    Here are my dimensions: The burner if you look at it straight down from the top measures 12x12 inches. The diameter of the pot is 17 inches. The pot is 4 and 1/2 inches deep. The threaded pieces operates smoothly because the threads are at the top of the pot. They never touch the molten lead. I was amazed at how well this worked for me the 1st time I fired it up. I'll never go back to my dutch oven, except for maybe a small project.
    I believe in gold, silver, & lead, and the rights of free honest men... You can keep the "CHANGE"!

    Shad

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    alright thanks, looks like i got some work to do lol...maybe not one that big. i got some 12" pipe i will probably just try and use that.

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    shadowcaster,
    BRAVO!
    That is a great design. The fabrication looks top notch and the the pictures show it off great.
    I like the width of the pot. When I made mine I used a smaller diameter pipe because that is what I had. It ended up taller than it is wide to be able to handle the weight I wanted to be able to smelt. This makes it difficut to scoop out the clips or other debris.
    I also like that you raised the working height up to a more comfortable level. I also raised mine up so I did not have to bend over to do the work. After raising my smelter, I am able to smelt 500-600 pounds at a time without being sore. After many years of shoeing horses, my back really doesn't like to bent over for too long a period.
    Good job, jmsj
    Last edited by jmsj; 03-06-2012 at 03:13 PM. Reason: added comments

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    Now that right there is a dandy!

    I bet you could cast Howitzer bullets with that monster!

    (I like the Lee Pro IV comparison picture)
    God Bless America!

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    Thanks Shadowcaster
    the rest of my stuff should be here in the morning, this stupid town, I had to order 1/4 pipe fittings

    Maybe get a test drive tomorrow.

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    couple of ?? on the threaded shaft. where did you come up with this thing. I am rebuilding my pot and this may help. thanks
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