I QUIT USEING ANYTHING EXCEPT BLACKHORN209 IN MY 45/70 ROLER< 500+ gr BULLET< PURE LEAD< 38 TO 42 gr BLACKHORN209< ALL GRESE GROVES FILLED< MAG PRIMER< 1 MILK CARTON CARD WAD OVER POWDER< 1 PLASTIC CARD WAD OVER PAPER WAD AND UNDER BULLET< CORK WAD IF NEEDED TO FILL AIR VOID, PLASTIC WAD ON TOP UNDER BULLET ? THIS ACTS LIKE A CLEANER ROUND< SLIGHT COMPRESSION< OL JUST TO CLOSE ACTION< 1200fps OR A TAD LESS< ACCURATE FROM 100yds TO 1000meters< 8/10 IN X RING AT 1000 IF I DO MY PART< THICK SOFT RECOIL PAD< CHEEK RISER AND WHEN NEEDED FOR LONG RANGE A FOLD TOWEL OVER CHEEK PAD< TILT LONG RANGE SIGHT FORWARD SO YOU CAN SEE THROUGH IT< BRASS NOT RESIZED, JUST BELLED TO CENTER AND INDEXTED< BULLET JUST SITS THERE< PRESSED IN WITH FINGER PRESSURE ONLY> SHOOTS VERY CLEAN> THUMPS A LITTLE BIT BUT I SHOOT SITTING WITH STICKS< NO PROBLEM SHOOTING A 100 ROUND MATCH< I HAVE A BAD BACK JUST, TO LET YOU KNOW>>>> HAVE FUN WITH ALL OF THIS< IF IT WERE EASY, EVERYONE WOULD DO IT ???