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ROOGER GUN PORN WARNING!! RATED "R"!
If you choose a quality maker, there is little chance of buying a "bad" 357 Magnum. The companies have the internal dimensions pretty much dialed in, and the caliber is just so darn useful.
There are 3 S&Ws and 1 Ruger in this caliber in my gun safe, with barrel lengths ranging from 2.5" to 7.5". My first centerfire handgun was a 357 Magnum, and I'm certain that the last sideirons I would ever part with would be so chambered. SAAMI kinda neutered the caliber ~20 years back, right along with the 41 and 44 Magnums......but the L-frame and N-frame S&Ws will safely run the 1935-level 357 loads without strain--and the GP-100s and Blackhawks won't bat an eye running 158 grain Lyman to 1500 FPS with the 6" or longer barrels. My rule of thumb has been to run the L/N-frames right up to Doug Wesson's load limit, and loads surpassing that get fired in my Bisley Blackhawk. K-frames are limited to current SAAMI pressures (36K PSI). Even at those lower pressures, 14.5 grains of WW-296 behind Lyman #358156 does a fine job of lighting up adjacent hillsides at dusk when fired from the 2.5" Model 19. Way fun, that.
I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.
Meh... I'm not trashing Ruger per se, but I currently have a Blackhawk on the bench I'm rebarrelling. Seems the groove diameter is .359" (!!!).Originally Posted by 9.3X62AL
“If your only tool is a hammer, then all your problems start to look like people who need to be beaten with a hammer.”
Congrats on your new shootin' iron! I love those GP100's, I don't own one, but I want one.
Here's what my $500 M28-2 looks like.
I bought the pistol and a pound of Red Dot for $500 total out the door price.
I still want a 4" GP100, I'm hoping by this time next year to have one.
Give us this day our daily lead.
Sic Semper Tyrannis.
If you don't want 1984 you're going to need some 1776.
WWGWD
Groo here
Just what did you do to wear out a TRR8???????????
Shot it.
I don't know what you do in the woods with your guns but I had a nickel pre-29 holster gun that I carried and shot all the time and it looked fine. The frame finally developed a crack at the cylinder stop notch in 1978 after it had 77,000 rounds through it. Sent it back to the factory and they built me a new gun with the same serial number. Sold that gun a few years ago to a collector who loved the idea of a three-screw gun marked 29-2 with a serial number that indicated it had been made in 1956...
JR--the .500 specialist
I do not stick to the trails. I do a lot of river crossings along with rock climbing and hill sliding. I go in all weather so snow, rain, etc. I'm thinking that either a half flap or full flap holster may be just the ticket once I get my new gun. I do not abuse my guns, but when I say I go on long range hikes, I mean 3 day hikes. You never know what could happen. You could kind of sort of fall of a cliff, fall in a river and let it carry you down a ways, and many other things. If you stay on the beaten path you are not exploring.
HOW did you wear out the 327?
I shot 38 special+p loads out of it. I believe I just got a lemon, but the performance center shouldn't send out lemons. It also had other issues besides getting worn out by loads it was more than capable of handling.
What's worn out? Was it unreliable?
to me a guns a tool. Made to be used. I dont treat my 2000 dollar linebaughs any differntly then i do a ruger blackhawk. they all get shot. They nickle plated those smiths for a reason. The finish holds up better then bluing and youd have made a blued one look bad long before your nickle one will. No doubt some of my guns get shot alot more then others but it isnt a matter of what they cost or what there worth that decides which gets used more. Its a matter of which i like more.
Oh yeah the out the door price is below $500[/QUOTE]
Smith & Wesson made more than a few Model 27's and I'm reasonably sure there are thousands of 'safe queens' around the USA.
I wouldn't hesitate to shoot it, matter of fact at that price? I'd work that baby like a rented mule!
Murphy
If I should depart this life while defending those who cannot defend themselves, then I have died the most honorable of deaths. Marc R. Murphy '2006'.
It got out of time and started spitting lead. It had cylinder binding from the get go. It was weird. It would fire 5 just fine and then bind a little on the last three. Out of the box I had light firing pin strikes, but that was fixed by tightning the tension screw in the grip fram. All in all I was not happy with the gun and finally got rid of it when it started spitting and leading the cylinder flutes. Oh yeah lets not forget the tool marks in the barrel that looked like rockets. It never leaded, but once again the performance center should be able to produce a better firearm.
That's outside my experience with Blackhawks. Izzat from the factory, or did someone over-do fire-lapping? I might be inclined to open the throats to .359", if they were smaller than the grooves. But the re-tube is "doing it right".
I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.
Looking back on it all here is what I have to say and just some thoughts.
Every company that mass produces an item is due to let a bad one get out. This is all across the consumer item spectrum. I am not bitter about it. I'm just disappointed. After all the questions and input, and pitching a hissy fit on my other thread about not wanting S&W info I put up and purchased a Model 28-2 Highway Patrolman. I had my money down on a Ruger GP100, but after much thought decided to stick with Smith and Wesson. I like the recessed chambers and the pinned barrel along with adjustable sights and a 4 inch barrel. Here is what I think about when I look to purchase firearms
Double Action revolvers-The first company I always think of is Smith and Wesson. There are other fine revolvers out there, but I have always had a S&W in my holster.
Single action revolvers- First company I think of here is Freedom Arms, but reality and the boss of the house usually have me going to Ruger.
Semi-Auto pistol- Glock, Glock , and Glock
Rifles- Savage first, Ruger second, and Remington when they are the only one who makes the Caliber I want in a hunting rifle.
What I am saying is is that all companies will let a lemon out on occasion, but don't cut off that entire portion of your firearm options due to it.
I bought a 98% Model 28-2 S&W .357 Mag for $325.00 last month. It shoots as good as it looks. Got a Bucheimer holster with it and a box of 158 gr REM ammo with it.
Doug
Doug Bowser
Shooter of anything that has a trigger and shoots lead
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Never been a big Ruger fan...the majority of their pistols simply do not appeal. Other than the Single Actions.
Passing on a M-27 ....to buy a GP-100........
No hope for you son...no hope at all.
FN in MT
Fn- You should have read the whole thread to get the awesome twist in the end. I bought a S&W model 28-2 highway patrolman with pinned barrel, recessed chambers, and4 inch barrel.Never been a big Ruger fan...the majority of their pistols simply do not appeal. Other than the Single Actions.
Passing on a M-27 ....to buy a GP-100........
No hope for you son...no hope at all.
FN in MT
Nice revolvers, have owned a couple in the past and never had a problem with any of them. Had no idea there value went up so much. I must be out of the loop on handguns, I would of thought a minty one would of brought $400 or so.Oh yeah the out the door price is below $500
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